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Re: Round 3: MarShawn Lloyd - USC

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 5:11 am
by BallinBucks420
MVP2110 wrote:My 127th ranked player. Don't really get this one


interesting why your so low on him..was Jeremiah favorite RB

Re: Round 3: MarShawn Lloyd - USC

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 5:16 am
by BallinBucks420
M-C-G wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:Interesting pick. My only concern was his durability. He's small, but so was/is Aaron Jones. Jeremiah having him as his #1 overall RB ahead of Brooks is pretty surprising, but if his body holds up I like him just as much if not more than Benson, Davis, Wright, Shipley, etc.


He is short, not small. Dude weighs 220 pounds.


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I was gonna say whats up with people saying he's small...like you said he's shorter but i could care less about my Rb's height for the most part...at 220 he definitely a good sized back

Re: Round 3: MarShawn Lloyd - USC

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 6:24 am
by WeekapaugGroove
From the highlights I just watched this dude could be fun. Seems to have good feet. Loved what I saw as a receiver. Could be a good complimentary back.

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Re: Round 3: MarShawn Lloyd - USC

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 10:27 am
by Ill-yasova
I’m not going to commit blasphemy here, but even though I’m a Packers fan my favorite player ever has always been Barry Sanders. At least a couple times a month on a Friday or Saturday night when I’m a few tequilas deep I’ll pull up highlight videos on YouTube and watch Barry cook for a while. Lloyd doesn’t have the same top end speed Barry did but his stop/start acceleration, and change of direction ability, along with his build is eerily similar.

If you watch the highlight video from the first page go to the 1:30 mark where he changes directions in the backfield for a huge gain. I didn’t know much about him going into the draft, but the game tape has me intrigued and excited.

Re: Round 3: MarShawn Lloyd - USC

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 10:57 am
by Ayt
HKPackFan wrote:A year of seasoning and he could replace Dillion next year.


Dillon is awful and might not even be an NFL caliber player anymore. The only thing he's really good for is pass blocking. I'd be shocked if Lloyd can't beat him out.

Re: Round 3: MarShawn Lloyd - USC

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 12:38 pm
by MVP2110
BallinBucks420 wrote:
MVP2110 wrote:My 127th ranked player. Don't really get this one


interesting why your so low on him..was Jeremiah favorite RB


He's older for a RB prospect(23), especially compared to some others still on the board. He has struggled with ball security in the past as well as pass blocking(which tbf is normal for rookie RBs). There's nothing about him that stands out to me. I'd have much preferred Jaylen Wright if we wanted a RB in R3

Re: Round 3: MarShawn Lloyd - USC

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 3:14 pm
by Profound23
MVP2110 wrote:
BallinBucks420 wrote:
MVP2110 wrote:My 127th ranked player. Don't really get this one


interesting why your so low on him..was Jeremiah favorite RB


He's older for a RB prospect(23), especially compared to some others still on the board. He has struggled with ball security in the past as well as pass blocking(which tbf is normal for rookie RBs). There's nothing about him that stands out to me. I'd have much preferred Jaylen Wright if we wanted a RB in R3



Admittedly when I watched USC I was paying so much attention to Caleb that I missed Lloyd. But his highlights show his potential is extremely high. The fact that he never stood out to me when watching USC makes me question how good he'll be in the NFL. Going to have to go back and watch a couple of games when I can to focus on him.

Re: Round 3: MarShawn Lloyd - USC

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 3:17 pm
by Profound23
Ill-yasova wrote:I’m not going to commit blasphemy here, but even though I’m a Packers fan my favorite player ever has always been Barry Sanders. At least a couple times a month on a Friday or Saturday night when I’m a few tequilas deep I’ll pull up highlight videos on YouTube and watch Barry cook for a while. Lloyd doesn’t have the same top end speed Barry did but his stop/start acceleration, and change of direction ability, along with his build is eerily similar.

If you watch the highlight video from the first page go to the 1:30 mark where he changes directions in the backfield for a huge gain. I didn’t know much about him going into the draft, but the game tape has me intrigued and excited.


Funny, I was thinking we just drafted Josh Jacobs to backup Josh Jacobs. Barry is too far lol...but his elusiveness and quick moves are nice. I worry about him dancing too much and missing holes at first. He will struggle in the beginning until the NFL slows down...but I'm cautiously optimistic.

Re: Round 3: MarShawn Lloyd - USC

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 3:18 pm
by paulpressey25
Ill-yasova wrote:I’m not going to commit blasphemy here, but even though I’m a Packers fan my favorite player ever has always been Barry Sanders. At least a couple times a month on a Friday or Saturday night when I’m a few tequilas deep I’ll pull up highlight videos on YouTube and watch Barry cook for a while. Lloyd doesn’t have the same top end speed Barry did but his stop/start acceleration, and change of direction ability, along with his build is eerily similar.

If you watch the highlight video from the first page go to the 1:30 mark where he changes directions in the backfield for a huge gain. I didn’t know much about him going into the draft, but the game tape has me intrigued and excited.


There’s a little Sanders in him. I’d equate him with Reggie Brooks. That’s an old name many wouldn’t remember, but a small fun fire hydrant back at Notre Dame back in the day. Had only one big year (senior) because he was buried behind a lot of stud ND backs like Bettis and Watters.

Brooks rushed for 1,000 years his rookie year, but then injuries took their toll.

Re: Round 3: MarShawn Lloyd - USC

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 3:21 pm
by Mags FTW
Multiple comps I saw said D'Andre Swift.

Re: Round 3: MarShawn Lloyd - USC

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 4:18 pm
by Greatness
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Re: Round 3: MarShawn Lloyd - USC

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 5:10 pm
by coolhandluke121
Seems solid to good in most traits you want from an RB. You don't need world-beaters at the position. I can live with this one.

Re: Round 3: MarShawn Lloyd - USC

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 9:13 pm
by Ill-yasova
Profound23 wrote:
Ill-yasova wrote:I’m not going to commit blasphemy here, but even though I’m a Packers fan my favorite player ever has always been Barry Sanders. At least a couple times a month on a Friday or Saturday night when I’m a few tequilas deep I’ll pull up highlight videos on YouTube and watch Barry cook for a while. Lloyd doesn’t have the same top end speed Barry did but his stop/start acceleration, and change of direction ability, along with his build is eerily similar.

If you watch the highlight video from the first page go to the 1:30 mark where he changes directions in the backfield for a huge gain. I didn’t know much about him going into the draft, but the game tape has me intrigued and excited.


Funny, I was thinking we just drafted Josh Jacobs to backup Josh Jacobs. Barry is too far lol...but his elusiveness and quick moves are nice. I worry about him dancing too much and missing holes at first. He will struggle in the beginning until the NFL slows down...but I'm cautiously optimistic.

I mean, Barry ran a 4.37. Nobody is Barry but his stop start acceleration, change of direction, and the way he uses his upper body when he jukes to fool the defender are all very Barry-esq traits. He looks fun.

Re: Round 3: MarShawn Lloyd - USC

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 9:55 pm
by skones
Tape looks like a lot of fun. He definitely passes my super analytically driven, "does he pop" test. Fumble issues are correctable with proper coaching and technique but the pass pro issues are a concern. Makes me think his role may be limited because of that and despite him looking like a better back with the ball in his hands, Dillon will be favored in year 1.

Re: Round 3: MarShawn Lloyd - USC

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 10:31 pm
by Reddeye
I haven't seen anything saying he is bad in pass pro. I just seen that he is undersized and hasn't done it very much.

Re: Round 3: MarShawn Lloyd - USC

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2024 12:13 am
by El Duderino
Profound23 wrote:
Ill-yasova wrote:I’m not going to commit blasphemy here, but even though I’m a Packers fan my favorite player ever has always been Barry Sanders. At least a couple times a month on a Friday or Saturday night when I’m a few tequilas deep I’ll pull up highlight videos on YouTube and watch Barry cook for a while. Lloyd doesn’t have the same top end speed Barry did but his stop/start acceleration, and change of direction ability, along with his build is eerily similar.

If you watch the highlight video from the first page go to the 1:30 mark where he changes directions in the backfield for a huge gain. I didn’t know much about him going into the draft, but the game tape has me intrigued and excited.


Funny, I was thinking we just drafted Josh Jacobs to backup Josh Jacobs.


I kinda thought the same. Similar body types, quick feet, shifty, and explosive for a guy carrying 220 pounds. I love the pick and expect him to be a sizable contributor as a rookie, so long as he doesn't fumble in real games, thus losing confidence of the coaches.

Re: Round 3: MarShawn Lloyd - USC

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2024 12:31 am
by raysbookclub
I love that we have bigger dudes at RB. Definitely appreciated Aaron Jones and his quickness and speed, but I have always thought big guys (who can accelerate and run and esp if they have good feet--eg Eddie Lacy, Marshawn Lynch) are awesome complements to a prolific passing attack.

Re: Round 3: MarShawn Lloyd - USC

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2024 1:11 am
by Ayt
El Duderino wrote:
Profound23 wrote:
Ill-yasova wrote:I’m not going to commit blasphemy here, but even though I’m a Packers fan my favorite player ever has always been Barry Sanders. At least a couple times a month on a Friday or Saturday night when I’m a few tequilas deep I’ll pull up highlight videos on YouTube and watch Barry cook for a while. Lloyd doesn’t have the same top end speed Barry did but his stop/start acceleration, and change of direction ability, along with his build is eerily similar.

If you watch the highlight video from the first page go to the 1:30 mark where he changes directions in the backfield for a huge gain. I didn’t know much about him going into the draft, but the game tape has me intrigued and excited.


Funny, I was thinking we just drafted Josh Jacobs to backup Josh Jacobs.


I kinda thought the same. Similar body types, quick feet, shifty, and explosive for a guy carrying 220 pounds. I love the pick and expect him to be a sizable contributor as a rookie, so long as he doesn't fumble in real games, thus losing confidence of the coaches.


He could be a monster in LaFleur's offense if he isn't actually a fumbler in the NFL.

skones wrote:Tape looks like a lot of fun. He definitely passes my super analytically driven, "does he pop" test. Fumble issues are correctable with proper coaching and technique but the pass pro issues are a concern. Makes me think his role may be limited because of that and despite him looking like a better back with the ball in his hands, Dillon will be favored in year 1.


Is pass pro actually a weakness?

Re: Round 3: MarShawn Lloyd - USC

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2024 1:42 am
by ReasonablySober
Ayt wrote:
El Duderino wrote:
Profound23 wrote:
Funny, I was thinking we just drafted Josh Jacobs to backup Josh Jacobs.


I kinda thought the same. Similar body types, quick feet, shifty, and explosive for a guy carrying 220 pounds. I love the pick and expect him to be a sizable contributor as a rookie, so long as he doesn't fumble in real games, thus losing confidence of the coaches.


He could be a monster in LaFleur's offense if he isn't actually a fumbler in the NFL.

skones wrote:Tape looks like a lot of fun. He definitely passes my super analytically driven, "does he pop" test. Fumble issues are correctable with proper coaching and technique but the pass pro issues are a concern. Makes me think his role may be limited because of that and despite him looking like a better back with the ball in his hands, Dillon will be favored in year 1.


Is pass pro actually a weakness?


PFF grade:

Brooks: 77.0
Benson: 75.4
Corum: 54.3
Lloyd: 28.9
Wright: 72.6
Irving: 23.6
Shipley: 25.2
Davis: 32.0
Guerendo: 52.7
Allen: 30.0
Estime: 63.6
Ali: 51.3
Tracy Jr. 61.8
Vidal: 79.3
McClellan: 27.6
Jordan: 57.2

Not good.

Re: Round 3: MarShawn Lloyd - USC

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2024 2:45 am
by HKPackFan
ReasonablySober wrote:
Ayt wrote:
El Duderino wrote:
I kinda thought the same. Similar body types, quick feet, shifty, and explosive for a guy carrying 220 pounds. I love the pick and expect him to be a sizable contributor as a rookie, so long as he doesn't fumble in real games, thus losing confidence of the coaches.


He could be a monster in LaFleur's offense if he isn't actually a fumbler in the NFL.

skones wrote:Tape looks like a lot of fun. He definitely passes my super analytically driven, "does he pop" test. Fumble issues are correctable with proper coaching and technique but the pass pro issues are a concern. Makes me think his role may be limited because of that and despite him looking like a better back with the ball in his hands, Dillon will be favored in year 1.


Is pass pro actually a weakness?


PFF grade:

Brooks: 77.0
Benson: 75.4
Corum: 54.3
Lloyd: 28.9
Wright: 72.6
Irving: 23.6
Shipley: 25.2
Davis: 32.0
Guerendo: 52.7
Allen: 30.0
Estime: 63.6
Ali: 51.3
Tracy Jr. 61.8
Vidal: 79.3
McClellan: 27.6
Jordan: 57.2

Not good.



Can that be taught though? Aaron Jones is smaller compared to him but Jones has some excellent blocks.