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Re: Round 1: Jordan Morgan, OT, Arizona

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 3:44 am
by MickeyDavis
ReasonablySober wrote:Guyton vs Barton vs Morgan is gonna be a debate down the line.

Every pick in every draft there is debate down the line about players bypassed ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Re: Round 1: Jordan Morgan, OT, Arizona

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 3:46 am
by LittleRooster
MVP2110 wrote:
Turk Nowitzki wrote:
LUKE23 wrote:If he can legitimately only play guard I absolutely hate this pick.

He might ultimately project better inside but I don't know you would arrive at the idea that he can only play guard considering he played exclusively LT in college.


Most projections have him moving inside because of how short his arms are.

His arms are only a tad shorter than Tom


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Re: Round 1: Jordan Morgan, OT, Arizona

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 3:46 am
by HKPackFan
MVP2110 wrote:
Turk Nowitzki wrote:
MVP2110 wrote:
Most projections have him moving inside because of how short his arms are.

I get it but I don't think the Packers go this route if they think he has no shot to play tackle. They'll get their best five out there and I might be in the minority but if it ends that he's a good guard I'm not mad at that.


I'm not even that mad with Morgan. The NFL has really started to value guard play and I'm generally a big believer in winning in the trenches. If Morgan is your starting RG for the next decade this is a success. It's moreso that DeJean was on the board. I absolutely loved DeJean, he was my #8 overall prospect.



He's still available, they could trade up if they like him.

Re: Round 1: Jordan Morgan, OT, Arizona

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 3:46 am
by humanrefutation
Morgan's injury history concerns me.

Re: Round 1: Jordan Morgan, OT, Arizona

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 3:48 am
by Turk Nowitzki
humanrefutation wrote:Morgan's injury history concerns me.

A torn ACL that he fully recovered from? Or is there something else?

Re: Round 1: Jordan Morgan, OT, Arizona

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 3:50 am
by MVP2110
LittleRooster wrote:
MVP2110 wrote:
Turk Nowitzki wrote:He might ultimately project better inside but I don't know you would arrive at the idea that he can only play guard considering he played exclusively LT in college.


Most projections have him moving inside because of how short his arms are.

His arms are only a tad shorter than Tom


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They are nearly an inch and a half shorter?
Tom 34 1/4
Morgan 32 7/8

Re: Round 1: Jordan Morgan, OT, Arizona

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 3:51 am
by Turk Nowitzki
MVP2110 wrote:
LittleRooster wrote:
MVP2110 wrote:
Most projections have him moving inside because of how short his arms are.

His arms are only a tad shorter than Tom


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They are nearly an inch and a half shorter?
Tom 34 1/4
Morgan 32 7/8

Tom is on NFL.com at 33 1/4

Re: Round 1: Jordan Morgan, OT, Arizona

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 3:52 am
by Matches Malone
Turk Nowitzki wrote:
humanrefutation wrote:Morgan's injury history concerns me.

A torn ACL that he fully recovered from? Or is there something else?


He also came back relatively quickly from the injury and didn't skip a beat when he came back.

Re: Round 1: Jordan Morgan, OT, Arizona

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 3:53 am
by humanrefutation
Turk Nowitzki wrote:
humanrefutation wrote:Morgan's injury history concerns me.

A torn ACL that he fully recovered from? Or is there something else?


He's had several injuries in his career including to his shoulder and ankle (along with the ACL).

Re: Round 1: Jordan Morgan, OT, Arizona

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 3:56 am
by MVP2110
Turk Nowitzki wrote:
MVP2110 wrote:
LittleRooster wrote:His arms are only a tad shorter than Tom


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They are nearly an inch and a half shorter?
Tom 34 1/4
Morgan 32 7/8

Tom is on NFL.com at 33 1/4


You're right. My apologies. But my main point still stands. If the idea is Morgan takes over for Tom at RT and they move Tom inside then they just spent pick 25 to upgrade the interior OL which meh at best

Re: Round 1: Jordan Morgan, OT, Arizona

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 3:58 am
by msiris
Should have traded with the Cheifs and got an extra pick and still have gotten their guy.

Re: Round 1: Jordan Morgan, OT, Arizona

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 3:58 am
by HKPackFan
Turk Nowitzki wrote:
MVP2110 wrote:
LittleRooster wrote:His arms are only a tad shorter than Tom


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They are nearly an inch and a half shorter?
Tom 34 1/4
Morgan 32 7/8

Tom is on NFL.com at 33 1/4



Even my lady friend told me an extra quarter inch doesn't make much difference.

Re: Round 1: Jordan Morgan, OT, Arizona

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 4:01 am
by drdrG
It's always hard to guess at value relative to draft position but I love this player. I think he's going to be an absolute stud. I like smart, smooth moving athletes at tackle and he fits that perfectly.

Re: Round 1: Jordan Morgan, OT, Arizona

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 4:02 am
by Ron Swanson
Not a fan. 2nd round grade, some injury history, good athlete but didn't do agility testing. Idk, this is the exact scenario I kinda worried about (settling for the 7th-8th best O-lineman prospect) and I'll stand by that. But this organization just knows how to develop lineman, so what do I know?

Re: Round 1: Jordan Morgan, OT, Arizona

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 4:03 am
by Treebeard
MVP2110 wrote:
Turk Nowitzki wrote:
LUKE23 wrote:If he can legitimately only play guard I absolutely hate this pick.

He might ultimately project better inside but I don't know you would arrive at the idea that he can only play guard considering he played exclusively LT in college.


Most projections have him moving inside because of how short his arms are.


Didn't Bulaga have comparatively short arms too?

Re: Round 1: Jordan Morgan, OT, Arizona

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 4:05 am
by ReasonablySober
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Re: Round 1: Jordan Morgan, OT, Arizona

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 4:06 am
by MVP2110
Treebeard wrote:
MVP2110 wrote:
Turk Nowitzki wrote:He might ultimately project better inside but I don't know you would arrive at the idea that he can only play guard considering he played exclusively LT in college.


Most projections have him moving inside because of how short his arms are.


Didn't Bulaga have comparatively short arms too?


Bulaga's arm length matches Tom's at 33 1/4, about a half inch longer than Morgan's

Re: Round 1: Jordan Morgan, OT, Arizona

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 4:10 am
by MVP2110
Sounds like Gutey was never going to trade up

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Re: Round 1: Jordan Morgan, OT, Arizona

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 4:10 am
by RiotPunch
Maybe Morgan is center? Any way I slice it this is an underwhelming outcome to me. Settling for a hopefully good interior lineman when we had ammo to be more aggressive.

Re: Round 1: Jordan Morgan, OT, Arizona

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 4:12 am
by ReasonablySober
Biggest reaches by consensus:

1 - Nix
2 - Penix
3 - Pearsall
5 (tie) - Morgan
5 (tie) - Latham