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College Football Discussion - Saban Retiring

Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:23 am
by MickeyDavis
Other thread almost maxed out, with playoffs looming good time for a new thread.

Re: College Football Discussion

Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:04 pm
by stillgotgame
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SEC owns the Big Ten right now. Be a good time to turn this around.

Re: College Football Discussion

Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2023 6:33 pm
by MickeyDavis
I can't stand Michigan or Alabama but I'll begrudgingly root for Michigan

Re: College Football Discussion

Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2023 10:07 pm
by MikeIsGood
Florida State is getting absolutely pounded.

Re: College Football Discussion

Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2023 10:20 pm
by MVP2110
MikeIsGood wrote:Florida State is getting absolutely pounded.

Makes sense given all the guys who transferred out. I'm pretty sure Georgia had zero players opt out of the bowl game which is pretty incredible

Re: College Football Discussion

Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2023 10:41 pm
by PintSizedBox10
Not a soul on social media realizes FSU is down like 20 starters.

Re: College Football Discussion

Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2023 10:48 pm
by MVP2110
PintSizedBox10 wrote:Not a soul on social media realizes FSU is down like 20 starters.


Yep. This is essentially a full strength Georgia team vs Florida St's backups

Re: College Football Discussion

Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2023 10:49 pm
by MikeIsGood
I've not been paying attention and didn't know that either. I guess not surprising ESPN is quiet on it considering they want to sell SEC dominance.

Still, this is something. This is kind of a "college football is broken" moment.

Re: College Football Discussion

Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2023 10:51 pm
by MickeyDavis
Bowers is out with an "ankle" that sounds like he would have played if it was a playoff game but that's it.

With draft and transfer guys sitting out, non playoff bowls suck. It will be interesting to see how many of the top 12 sit out next year.

Re: College Football Discussion

Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2023 3:09 am
by ReasonablySober
The Seminoles played without their top two quarterbacks, top two running backs, top two receivers, starting tight end, three starting defensive linemen, two of three starting linebackers and three starting defensive backs. They were down 29 scholarship players in all.

Re: College Football Discussion

Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2023 3:10 am
by ReginaldDwight
MickeyDavis wrote:Bowers is out with an "ankle" that sounds like he would have played if it was a playoff game but that's it.

With draft and transfer guys sitting out, non playoff bowls suck. It will be interesting to see how many of the top 12 sit out next year.

Id imagine if youre on a team that has to win 3 games to win the title we will see a similar situation. TBH the playoff broke college football. How many times did the wrong team really win the national title before the playoff?

Re: College Football Discussion

Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2023 3:32 am
by MVP2110
ReginaldDwight wrote:
MickeyDavis wrote:Bowers is out with an "ankle" that sounds like he would have played if it was a playoff game but that's it.

With draft and transfer guys sitting out, non playoff bowls suck. It will be interesting to see how many of the top 12 sit out next year.

Id imagine if youre on a team that has to win 3 games to win the title we will see a similar situation. TBH the playoff broke college football. How many times did the wrong team really win the national title before the playoff?


What's crazy is in the old BCS system(before conference championship games) Wisconsin likely plays in the National Championship game in 2017

Re: College Football Discussion

Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2023 3:34 am
by ReasonablySober
ReginaldDwight wrote:
MickeyDavis wrote:Bowers is out with an "ankle" that sounds like he would have played if it was a playoff game but that's it.

With draft and transfer guys sitting out, non playoff bowls suck. It will be interesting to see how many of the top 12 sit out next year.

Id imagine if youre on a team that has to win 3 games to win the title we will see a similar situation. TBH the playoff broke college football. How many times did the wrong team really win the national title before the playoff?


How would we ever know without the playoffs?

Re: College Football Discussion

Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2023 3:55 am
by MartyConlonOnTheRun
ReasonablySober wrote:
The Seminoles played without their top two quarterbacks, top two running backs, top two receivers, starting tight end, three starting defensive linemen, two of three starting linebackers and three starting defensive backs. They were down 29 scholarship players in all.

At what point do they just do an al McGuire and say nah we are good when asked to be in the bowl game? This isn't good for the product either but I'm not sure how networks can pressure kids who aren't being paid to play.

Re: College Football Discussion

Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2023 3:57 am
by ReasonablySober
MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:
The Seminoles played without their top two quarterbacks, top two running backs, top two receivers, starting tight end, three starting defensive linemen, two of three starting linebackers and three starting defensive backs. They were down 29 scholarship players in all.

At what point do they just do an al McGuire and say nah we are good when asked to be in the bowl game? This isn't good for the product either but I'm not sure how networks can pressure kids who aren't being paid to play.


You could have the NIL sponsors stipulate in their deals that they need to play in bowls.

Re: College Football Discussion

Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2023 4:16 am
by trwi7
ReasonablySober wrote:
ReginaldDwight wrote:
MickeyDavis wrote:Bowers is out with an "ankle" that sounds like he would have played if it was a playoff game but that's it.

With draft and transfer guys sitting out, non playoff bowls suck. It will be interesting to see how many of the top 12 sit out next year.

Id imagine if youre on a team that has to win 3 games to win the title we will see a similar situation. TBH the playoff broke college football. How many times did the wrong team really win the national title before the playoff?


How would we ever know without the playoffs?


And a lot of times we don't want the best team to win. Who wanted Kentucky to beat Wisconsin when they were 38-0? Unless you're a fan of the #1 seed who loses, who doesn't love seeing a 1 vs 16 upset happen?

Re: College Football Discussion

Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2023 4:49 am
by ReginaldDwight
trwi7 wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:
ReginaldDwight wrote:Id imagine if youre on a team that has to win 3 games to win the title we will see a similar situation. TBH the playoff broke college football. How many times did the wrong team really win the national title before the playoff?


How would we ever know without the playoffs?


And a lot of times we don't want the best team to win. Who wanted Kentucky to beat Wisconsin when they were 38-0? Unless you're a fan of the #1 seed who loses, who doesn't love seeing a 1 vs 16 upset happen?

Cant compare basketball with football, the attempts to replicate march madness with the CFP have failed IMO.

Re: College Football Discussion

Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2023 4:50 am
by ReasonablySober
ReginaldDwight wrote:
trwi7 wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:
How would we ever know without the playoffs?


And a lot of times we don't want the best team to win. Who wanted Kentucky to beat Wisconsin when they were 38-0? Unless you're a fan of the #1 seed who loses, who doesn't love seeing a 1 vs 16 upset happen?

Cant compare basketball with football, the attempts to replicate march madness with the CFP have failed IMO.


Lower divisions in college football have playoffs every year. It's great. No reason it can't be a success at the highest levels.

Re: College Football Discussion

Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2023 4:53 am
by ReginaldDwight
ReasonablySober wrote:
ReginaldDwight wrote:
trwi7 wrote:
And a lot of times we don't want the best team to win. Who wanted Kentucky to beat Wisconsin when they were 38-0? Unless you're a fan of the #1 seed who loses, who doesn't love seeing a 1 vs 16 upset happen?

Cant compare basketball with football, the attempts to replicate march madness with the CFP have failed IMO.


Lower divisions in college football have playoffs every year. It's great. No reason it can't be a success at the highest levels.

Then have to accept that the majority of the college football season will be glorified scrimmages once teams are out of the running for the CFP. The difference is those lower level guys are playing for different reasons then a kid at a P5 school who plays.

Re: College Football Discussion

Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2023 4:56 am
by ReginaldDwight
MickeyDavis wrote:I can't stand Michigan or Alabama but I'll begrudgingly root for Michigan

I want in this order Washington Michigan.........................Bama.............Texas