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Otis Driftwood wrote:Mr B wrote:
Also I thought Cooper Rush played better than Kellen Moore.
Agreed. Hope we are able to sneak him through waivers and onto the PS. I believe they would prefer Moore being active on weekends instead of the untested rookie.
Mr B wrote:Otis Driftwood wrote:Mr B wrote:
Also I thought Cooper Rush played better than Kellen Moore.
Agreed. Hope we are able to sneak him through waivers and onto the PS. I believe they would prefer Moore being active on weekends instead of the untested rookie.
Yea I'd be surprised if they kept 3 QB's. Linehan wants Moore so he's likely the backup. I'm interested to see what McCown has. I'm not expecting much, only to be better than Moore.
I was impressed with Rush. He's got a stronger arm than Moore and has some wheels on him. He's a project and will take some time to groom. He's still really raw so I don't think the Cowboys will have a problem getting him threw waivers. With the Cowboys having a young pro bowl QB they have the time to be able to groom Rush. If Rush is smart he will stick as close as he can to Dak and just do everything he does.
Otis Driftwood wrote:Mr B wrote:Otis Driftwood wrote:
Agreed. Hope we are able to sneak him through waivers and onto the PS. I believe they would prefer Moore being active on weekends instead of the untested rookie.
Yea I'd be surprised if they kept 3 QB's. Linehan wants Moore so he's likely the backup. I'm interested to see what McCown has. I'm not expecting much, only to be better than Moore.
I was impressed with Rush. He's got a stronger arm than Moore and has some wheels on him. He's a project and will take some time to groom. He's still really raw so I don't think the Cowboys will have a problem getting him threw waivers. With the Cowboys having a young pro bowl QB they have the time to be able to groom Rush. If Rush is smart he will stick as close as he can to Dak and just do everything he does.
I remember trying to sneak Matt Moore through waivers his rookie season. Didn't work.
bluejerseyjinx wrote:Tired of this Elliot **** still going on 14 months later. **** or get off the pot Goodell.
Mr B wrote:bluejerseyjinx wrote:Tired of this Elliot **** still going on 14 months later. **** or get off the pot Goodell.
Cris Carter seems to think he'll get 4-10 games. Jerry and Stephen think he'll get zero. Either way let's just get this show on the road. I'm just tired of hearing about it.
Otis Driftwood wrote:Mr B wrote:bluejerseyjinx wrote:Tired of this Elliot **** still going on 14 months later. **** or get off the pot Goodell.
Cris Carter seems to think he'll get 4-10 games. Jerry and Stephen think he'll get zero. Either way let's just get this show on the road. I'm just tired of hearing about it.
Cris Carter...
If he gets anything more than a game, Jerry AND the NFLPA will sue the league.
Otis Driftwood wrote:This was damn near a season ender... but he should be ready for Week 1.
Mr B wrote:Otis Driftwood wrote:This was damn near a season ender... but he should be ready for Week 1.
Yea they said the sprain was not a high ankle sprain so he should be ok by week 1. He's done for training camp and preseason though. Tyron is also being shut down for the remainder of camp I believe. His back is acting up.
The NFL suspended Dallas Cowboys running back Ezekiel Elliott six games Friday for violating the league's personal-conduct policy, a source informed of the situation told NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport.
The ruling comes after the NFL's year-long investigation into multiple incidents involving Elliott, including domestic violence accusations made against him by a woman who identified herself as his former girlfriend to authorities.
Elliott, 22, has denied the allegations and has the right to appeal the NFL's decision. He has three days to appeal. If the six-game suspension stands, Elliott would be eligible to make his season debut Oct. 29 against the Washington Redskins.
ESPN first reported the development.
The woman told police Elliott assaulted her on five separate occasions over the course of a week in July 2016, according to the Columbus (Ohio) City Attorney's Office. He was never arrested and prosecutors declined to charge Elliott, citing conflicting and inconsistent information.
Under the terms of the NFL's personal conduct policy, players found by the league to have committed domestic violence are subject to "a baseline suspension without pay of six games" regardless of whether "the conduct does not result in a criminal conviction."
The policy states: "In cases where a player is not charged with a crime, or is charged but not convicted, he may still be found to have violated the policy if the credible evidence establishes that he engaged in conduct prohibited by this Personal Conduct Policy."
Robert S. Tobias, principal assistant city attorney in Columbus, stated in an email to NFL Network's Tom Pelissero last year he believed "there were a series of interactions between Mr. Elliott and [his accuser] where violence occurred."
"... Given the totality of the circumstances, I could not firmly conclude exactly what happened," Tobias wrote in October. "Saying something happened versus having sufficient evidence to criminally charge someone are two completely different things."
The NFL launched its investigation soon after Elliott's ex-girlfriend filed a police report last summer. League investigators first interviewed Elliott in October and met with him again last month. Elliott and the NFL Players Association turned over phone records and documents related to the case to the league in May.
It wasn't the only incident the NFL looked into involving Elliott. The same woman called police on Elliott in Feb. 2016 in Florida, where the former Ohio State star was training prior to the NFL Scouting Combine, sources with knowledge of the situation told Pelissero. She told police she suffered shoulder pain when Elliott pushed her up against a wall. Elliott wasn't arrested or charged.
In March of this year, Elliott was seen in videos and photos pulling down a woman's shirt and exposing her breast on the roof of a Dallas bar during a St. Patrick's Day parade. Last month, Elliott was involved in an incident at another Dallas bar that initially sparked an assault investigation before police suspended their probe. That incident, however, was not part of the NFL's completed probe, a source with knowledge of the investigation told Rapoport and Pelissero.
Elliott is in his second season with the Cowboys after rushing for 1,631 yards and 15 touchdowns en route to earning first-team All-Pro honors in 2016.
Otis Driftwood wrote:Cowboys' Ezekiel Elliott suspended six games by NFL
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000828558/article/ezekiel-elliott-suspended-six-games-by-nflThe NFL suspended Dallas Cowboys running back Ezekiel Elliott six games Friday for violating the league's personal-conduct policy, a source informed of the situation told NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport.
The ruling comes after the NFL's year-long investigation into multiple incidents involving Elliott, including domestic violence accusations made against him by a woman who identified herself as his former girlfriend to authorities.
Elliott, 22, has denied the allegations and has the right to appeal the NFL's decision. He has three days to appeal. If the six-game suspension stands, Elliott would be eligible to make his season debut Oct. 29 against the Washington Redskins.
ESPN first reported the development.
The woman told police Elliott assaulted her on five separate occasions over the course of a week in July 2016, according to the Columbus (Ohio) City Attorney's Office. He was never arrested and prosecutors declined to charge Elliott, citing conflicting and inconsistent information.
Under the terms of the NFL's personal conduct policy, players found by the league to have committed domestic violence are subject to "a baseline suspension without pay of six games" regardless of whether "the conduct does not result in a criminal conviction."
The policy states: "In cases where a player is not charged with a crime, or is charged but not convicted, he may still be found to have violated the policy if the credible evidence establishes that he engaged in conduct prohibited by this Personal Conduct Policy."
Robert S. Tobias, principal assistant city attorney in Columbus, stated in an email to NFL Network's Tom Pelissero last year he believed "there were a series of interactions between Mr. Elliott and [his accuser] where violence occurred."
"... Given the totality of the circumstances, I could not firmly conclude exactly what happened," Tobias wrote in October. "Saying something happened versus having sufficient evidence to criminally charge someone are two completely different things."
The NFL launched its investigation soon after Elliott's ex-girlfriend filed a police report last summer. League investigators first interviewed Elliott in October and met with him again last month. Elliott and the NFL Players Association turned over phone records and documents related to the case to the league in May.
It wasn't the only incident the NFL looked into involving Elliott. The same woman called police on Elliott in Feb. 2016 in Florida, where the former Ohio State star was training prior to the NFL Scouting Combine, sources with knowledge of the situation told Pelissero. She told police she suffered shoulder pain when Elliott pushed her up against a wall. Elliott wasn't arrested or charged.
In March of this year, Elliott was seen in videos and photos pulling down a woman's shirt and exposing her breast on the roof of a Dallas bar during a St. Patrick's Day parade. Last month, Elliott was involved in an incident at another Dallas bar that initially sparked an assault investigation before police suspended their probe. That incident, however, was not part of the NFL's completed probe, a source with knowledge of the investigation told Rapoport and Pelissero.
Elliott is in his second season with the Cowboys after rushing for 1,631 yards and 15 touchdowns en route to earning first-team All-Pro honors in 2016.
NickAndersonsBack25 wrote:Hurts, a lot.
If it's supported by evidence than I cannot sport when Zeke has done.
Problem is the NFL is so inconsistent and doesn't have its own ducks lined up. NFL is going to do a good job of losing its role as the most watch pro sport in the US.
Otis Driftwood wrote:NickAndersonsBack25 wrote:Hurts, a lot.
If it's supported by evidence than I cannot sport when Zeke has done.
Problem is the NFL is so inconsistent and doesn't have its own ducks lined up. NFL is going to do a good job of losing its role as the most watch pro sport in the US.
That's my problem with 6. Josh Brown got 1. Ray Rice 2... with a video.
And - if the Columbus law enforcement organizations (including prosecutors) saw the same evidence that the NFL did... and did nothing, then I've got a serious issue with that. They are incompetent.
I fully expect he will appeal... and it will get reduced to 4 games. Just as Big Ben and Brady did.
Mr B wrote:Otis Driftwood wrote:NickAndersonsBack25 wrote:Hurts, a lot.
If it's supported by evidence than I cannot sport when Zeke has done.
Problem is the NFL is so inconsistent and doesn't have its own ducks lined up. NFL is going to do a good job of losing its role as the most watch pro sport in the US.
That's my problem with 6. Josh Brown got 1. Ray Rice 2... with a video.
And - if the Columbus law enforcement organizations (including prosecutors) saw the same evidence that the NFL did... and did nothing, then I've got a serious issue with that. They are incompetent.
I fully expect he will appeal... and it will get reduced to 4 games. Just as Big Ben and Brady did.
Jerry is assembling his team of lawyers as we speak too.
Otis Driftwood wrote:Mr B wrote:Otis Driftwood wrote:
That's my problem with 6. Josh Brown got 1. Ray Rice 2... with a video.
And - if the Columbus law enforcement organizations (including prosecutors) saw the same evidence that the NFL did... and did nothing, then I've got a serious issue with that. They are incompetent.
I fully expect he will appeal... and it will get reduced to 4 games. Just as Big Ben and Brady did.
Jerry is assembling his team of lawyers as we speak too.
So did Kraft.
Mr B wrote:Otis Driftwood wrote:Mr B wrote:
Jerry is assembling his team of lawyers as we speak too.
So did Kraft.
Different case. The two are not even similar. In Zeke's case there is clear evidence he was not guilty of domestic violence. Jerry has more of a case than Kraft did.
Otis Driftwood wrote:Mr B wrote:Otis Driftwood wrote:
So did Kraft.
Different case. The two are not even similar. In Zeke's case there is clear evidence he was not guilty of domestic violence. Jerry has more of a case than Kraft did.
What evidence?
Mr B wrote:Otis Driftwood wrote:Mr B wrote:
Different case. The two are not even similar. In Zeke's case there is clear evidence he was not guilty of domestic violence. Jerry has more of a case than Kraft did.
What evidence?
The girl's text messages asking her friend to lie on her behalf. Also Zeke's texts where she is saying she will ruin him.
Otis Driftwood wrote:Mr B wrote:Otis Driftwood wrote:
What evidence?
The girl's text messages asking her friend to lie on her behalf. Also Zeke's texts where she is saying she will ruin him.
And what does that have to do with the CBA giving Goodell the right to dispense punishment?
Go back and read up on the Brady case.
