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Might as well get this thing fired up... because there is plenty to discuss.
Starting here...
https://overthecap.com/calculator/dallas-cowboys
Currently $223K over.
Starting here...
https://overthecap.com/calculator/dallas-cowboys
Currently $223K over.
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Otis Driftwood wrote:Might as well get this thing fired up... because there is plenty to discuss.
Starting here...
https://overthecap.com/calculator/dallas-cowboys
Currently $223K over.
They also own the 27th pick in the upcoming draft.
Has anyone here done a deep dive on some of the prospects coming out?
Dominater wrote:Damn Cactus jack takin over
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There are no QB's I like coming out of this class so I'm looking at other areas of need. DT, LB, CB, OL and another damn RB. Elliott has to go unless you guys still thinks he's worth 24 mill a year. And more depth would be nice.
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Cactus Jack wrote:They also own the 27th pick in the upcoming draft.
Has anyone here done a deep dive on some of the prospects coming out?
I'm sure that's coming... but I'm also not real interested in giving up the 27th pick of the draft for Sean Payton. This team is in the process of needing to replace some key positional players (LG; C; RB; WR; DT; CB, etc.) Can quibble about who gets drafted where but Will McClay has done a pretty damn good job overall of identifying players for this team in the draft.
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Cactus Jack wrote:Otis Driftwood wrote:Might as well get this thing fired up... because there is plenty to discuss.
Starting here...
https://overthecap.com/calculator/dallas-cowboys
Currently $223K over.
They also own the 27th pick in the upcoming draft.
Has anyone here done a deep dive on some of the prospects coming out?
I haven’t yet. We really need to wait for the Senior Bowl and for the combine. There are always a couple of QB’s that shoot up the board by then which should push a couple of good players down to us.
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I really don't believe Payton will come to Dallas. Jerry won't give the Power needed for Sean Payton to do his thing. And I'm like Otis, I don't want to give up a first round pick.
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Zeke on record saying he wants to resign with the Cowboys for less money. I say let him walk and show him the door.
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I wonder how bad Pollard's bone break is. It requires surgery. I wonder if he is damaged goods now.
Zeke is past his prime but he was a solid compliment. I like that he wants to stay on the roster. If the pay cut is big enough, might be worth it to keep him around. It would save us from having to waste a draft pick on RB and instead draft a more needy area.
Zeke is past his prime but he was a solid compliment. I like that he wants to stay on the roster. If the pay cut is big enough, might be worth it to keep him around. It would save us from having to waste a draft pick on RB and instead draft a more needy area.
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bluejerseyjinx wrote:Zeke on record saying he wants to resign with the Cowboys for less money. I say let him walk and show him the door.
He’s Jerry’s boy. He’s not going anywhere. I agree that he should be gone but I just don’t think it’s going to happen.
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Micah Prescott wrote:I wonder how bad Pollard's bone break is. It requires surgery. I wonder if he is damaged goods now.
Zeke is past his prime but he was a solid compliment. I like that he wants to stay on the roster. If the pay cut is big enough, might be worth it to keep him around. It would save us from having to waste a draft pick on RB and instead draft a more needy area.
To me Malik Davis reminds me of what Pollard was in his rookie season. I’d like to see the Cowboys draft a workhorse type RB in the middle rounds and pair him with Davis. They could also still franchise Pollard and bring him back for 1 more year.
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Mr B wrote:bluejerseyjinx wrote:Zeke on record saying he wants to resign with the Cowboys for less money. I say let him walk and show him the door.
He’s Jerry’s boy. He’s not going anywhere. I agree that he should be gone but I just don’t think it’s going to happen.
Are you fu....g serious? You know something don't you?
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Mr B wrote:Micah Prescott wrote:I wonder how bad Pollard's bone break is. It requires surgery. I wonder if he is damaged goods now.
Zeke is past his prime but he was a solid compliment. I like that he wants to stay on the roster. If the pay cut is big enough, might be worth it to keep him around. It would save us from having to waste a draft pick on RB and instead draft a more needy area.
To me Malik Davis reminds me of what Pollard was in his rookie season. I’d like to see the Cowboys draft a workhorse type RB in the middle rounds and pair him with Davis. They could also still franchise Pollard and bring him back for 1 more year.
There are two awesome RB's in the draft this year. As a matter of fact this year's draft is really deep in RB's. Kansas State and Texas had RB's that stood out to me.
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I think it's too difficult to gauge what to do at RB unless we know the severity of Pollard's injury.
I Pollard is 100%, make him the workhorse, redo Zeke's contract and give him a lesser role. Draft picked saved.
If Pollard is questionable we have to draft a RB no way around it.
I don't think Jerry has any real attachment to Zeke. It's all a front. Dez was "Jerry's boy" too. Amari was Jerry's prized trade. Business comes first for Jerry, I think he'll cut anyone if he needs to.
I Pollard is 100%, make him the workhorse, redo Zeke's contract and give him a lesser role. Draft picked saved.
If Pollard is questionable we have to draft a RB no way around it.
I don't think Jerry has any real attachment to Zeke. It's all a front. Dez was "Jerry's boy" too. Amari was Jerry's prized trade. Business comes first for Jerry, I think he'll cut anyone if he needs to.
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So... a useful list of FA's.
Unrestricted free agents
1. OLB Anthony Barr Age: 30 Expiring contract: 1 year, $2,000,000 2022 salary: $2,000,000
2. CB Anthony Brown Age: 29 Expiring contract: 3 years, $15,500,000 2022 salary: $5,000,000
3. DE Brandon Graham Age: 34 Expiring contract: 3 years, $40,000,000 2022 salary: $7,500,000
4. WR Noah Brown Age: 27 Expiring contract: 1 year, $1,187,500 2022 salary: $1,187,500
5. DE Dante Fowler Jr. Age: 28 Expiring contract: 1 year, $3,000,000 2022 salary: $3,000,000
6. LB Luke Gifford Age: 27 Expiring contract: 1 year, $1,115,000 2022 salary: $1,115,000
7. CB C.J. Goodwin Age: 32 Expiring contract: 2 years, $3,500,000 2022 salary: $1,500,000
8. DT Johnathan Hankins Age: 30 Expiring contract: 1 year, $1,325,000 2022 salary: $722,444
9. WR T.Y. Hilton Age: 33 Expiring contract: 1 year, $800,000 2022 salary: $800,000
10. K Brett Maher Age: 33 Expiring contract: 1 year, $965,000 2022 salary: $911,387
11. C Connor McGovern Age: 25 Expiring contract: 4 years, $3,618,108 2022 salary: $2,540,000
12. LS Jake McQuade Age: 35 Expiring contract: 1 year, $1,272,500 2022 salary: $1,120,000
13. CB Trayvon Mullen Age: 25 Expiring contract: 4 years, $7,259,146 2022 salary: $564,444
14. LS Matt Overton Age: 37 Expiring contract: 1 year, $1,120,000 2022 salary: $808,886
15. OT Jason Peters Age: 40 Expiring contract: 1 year, $1,960,000 2022 salary: $1,826,731
16. RB Tony Pollard Age: 25 Expiring contract: 4 years, $3,187,780 2022 salary: $965,000
17. QB Cooper Rush Age: 29 Expiring contract: 2 years, $1,955,000 2022 salary: $977,500
18. TE Dalton Schultz Age: 26 Expiring contract: 1 year, $10,931,000 (franchise tag) 2022 salary: $10,931,000
19. LB Leighton Vander Esch Age: 26 Expiring contract: 1 year, $2,000,000 2022 salary: $2,000,000
20. WR James Washington Age: 26 Expiring contract: 1 year, $1,187,500 2022 salary: $1,187,500
21. DE Carlos Watkins Age: 29 Expiring contract: 1 year, $1,187,500 2022 salary: $690,000
22. S Donovan Wilson Age: 25 Expiring contract: 4 years, $2,647,356 2022 salary: $965,000
Restricted free agents
1. RB Rico Dowdle Age: 25 Expiring contract: 3 years, $2,295,000 2022 salary: $825,000
2. OT Terence Steele Age: 25 Expiring contract: 3 years, $2,295,000 2022 salary: $895,000
Unrestricted free agents
1. OLB Anthony Barr Age: 30 Expiring contract: 1 year, $2,000,000 2022 salary: $2,000,000
2. CB Anthony Brown Age: 29 Expiring contract: 3 years, $15,500,000 2022 salary: $5,000,000
3. DE Brandon Graham Age: 34 Expiring contract: 3 years, $40,000,000 2022 salary: $7,500,000
4. WR Noah Brown Age: 27 Expiring contract: 1 year, $1,187,500 2022 salary: $1,187,500
5. DE Dante Fowler Jr. Age: 28 Expiring contract: 1 year, $3,000,000 2022 salary: $3,000,000
6. LB Luke Gifford Age: 27 Expiring contract: 1 year, $1,115,000 2022 salary: $1,115,000
7. CB C.J. Goodwin Age: 32 Expiring contract: 2 years, $3,500,000 2022 salary: $1,500,000
8. DT Johnathan Hankins Age: 30 Expiring contract: 1 year, $1,325,000 2022 salary: $722,444
9. WR T.Y. Hilton Age: 33 Expiring contract: 1 year, $800,000 2022 salary: $800,000
10. K Brett Maher Age: 33 Expiring contract: 1 year, $965,000 2022 salary: $911,387
11. C Connor McGovern Age: 25 Expiring contract: 4 years, $3,618,108 2022 salary: $2,540,000
12. LS Jake McQuade Age: 35 Expiring contract: 1 year, $1,272,500 2022 salary: $1,120,000
13. CB Trayvon Mullen Age: 25 Expiring contract: 4 years, $7,259,146 2022 salary: $564,444
14. LS Matt Overton Age: 37 Expiring contract: 1 year, $1,120,000 2022 salary: $808,886
15. OT Jason Peters Age: 40 Expiring contract: 1 year, $1,960,000 2022 salary: $1,826,731
16. RB Tony Pollard Age: 25 Expiring contract: 4 years, $3,187,780 2022 salary: $965,000
17. QB Cooper Rush Age: 29 Expiring contract: 2 years, $1,955,000 2022 salary: $977,500
18. TE Dalton Schultz Age: 26 Expiring contract: 1 year, $10,931,000 (franchise tag) 2022 salary: $10,931,000
19. LB Leighton Vander Esch Age: 26 Expiring contract: 1 year, $2,000,000 2022 salary: $2,000,000
20. WR James Washington Age: 26 Expiring contract: 1 year, $1,187,500 2022 salary: $1,187,500
21. DE Carlos Watkins Age: 29 Expiring contract: 1 year, $1,187,500 2022 salary: $690,000
22. S Donovan Wilson Age: 25 Expiring contract: 4 years, $2,647,356 2022 salary: $965,000
Restricted free agents
1. RB Rico Dowdle Age: 25 Expiring contract: 3 years, $2,295,000 2022 salary: $825,000
2. OT Terence Steele Age: 25 Expiring contract: 3 years, $2,295,000 2022 salary: $895,000
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bluejerseyjinx wrote:Mr B wrote:bluejerseyjinx wrote:Zeke on record saying he wants to resign with the Cowboys for less money. I say let him walk and show him the door.
He’s Jerry’s boy. He’s not going anywhere. I agree that he should be gone but I just don’t think it’s going to happen.
Are you fu....g serious? You know something don't you?
On just basing that on what’s being said and how much Jerry loves the guy. He’ll be back in some way shape or form, for A LOT less money.
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Micah Prescott wrote:I think it's too difficult to gauge what to do at RB unless we know the severity of Pollard's injury.
I Pollard is 100%, make him the workhorse, redo Zeke's contract and give him a lesser role. Draft picked saved.
If Pollard is questionable we have to draft a RB no way around it.
I don't think Jerry has any real attachment to Zeke. It's all a front. Dez was "Jerry's boy" too. Amari was Jerry's prized trade. Business comes first for Jerry, I think he'll cut anyone if he needs to.
I don’t think they want to make the same mistake with Pollard that they made with Zeke. In todays game you just don’t pay RB’s big money. You can literally find them at any point in the draft. Pollard himself was a 4th round pick. It makes more sense to invest in the OL and just draft another RB.
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Otis Driftwood wrote:So... a useful list of FA's.
Unrestricted free agents
1. OLB Anthony Barr Age: 30 Expiring contract: 1 year, $2,000,000 2022 salary: $2,000,000
2. CB Anthony Brown Age: 29 Expiring contract: 3 years, $15,500,000 2022 salary: $5,000,000
3. DE Brandon Graham Age: 34 Expiring contract: 3 years, $40,000,000 2022 salary: $7,500,000
4. WR Noah Brown Age: 27 Expiring contract: 1 year, $1,187,500 2022 salary: $1,187,500
5. DE Dante Fowler Jr. Age: 28 Expiring contract: 1 year, $3,000,000 2022 salary: $3,000,000
6. LB Luke Gifford Age: 27 Expiring contract: 1 year, $1,115,000 2022 salary: $1,115,000
7. CB C.J. Goodwin Age: 32 Expiring contract: 2 years, $3,500,000 2022 salary: $1,500,000
8. DT Johnathan Hankins Age: 30 Expiring contract: 1 year, $1,325,000 2022 salary: $722,444
9. WR T.Y. Hilton Age: 33 Expiring contract: 1 year, $800,000 2022 salary: $800,000
10. K Brett Maher Age: 33 Expiring contract: 1 year, $965,000 2022 salary: $911,387
11. C Connor McGovern Age: 25 Expiring contract: 4 years, $3,618,108 2022 salary: $2,540,000
12. LS Jake McQuade Age: 35 Expiring contract: 1 year, $1,272,500 2022 salary: $1,120,000
13. CB Trayvon Mullen Age: 25 Expiring contract: 4 years, $7,259,146 2022 salary: $564,444
14. LS Matt Overton Age: 37 Expiring contract: 1 year, $1,120,000 2022 salary: $808,886
15. OT Jason Peters Age: 40 Expiring contract: 1 year, $1,960,000 2022 salary: $1,826,731
16. RB Tony Pollard Age: 25 Expiring contract: 4 years, $3,187,780 2022 salary: $965,000
17. QB Cooper Rush Age: 29 Expiring contract: 2 years, $1,955,000 2022 salary: $977,500
18. TE Dalton Schultz Age: 26 Expiring contract: 1 year, $10,931,000 (franchise tag) 2022 salary: $10,931,000
19. LB Leighton Vander Esch Age: 26 Expiring contract: 1 year, $2,000,000 2022 salary: $2,000,000
20. WR James Washington Age: 26 Expiring contract: 1 year, $1,187,500 2022 salary: $1,187,500
21. DE Carlos Watkins Age: 29 Expiring contract: 1 year, $1,187,500 2022 salary: $690,000
22. S Donovan Wilson Age: 25 Expiring contract: 4 years, $2,647,356 2022 salary: $965,000
Restricted free agents
1. RB Rico Dowdle Age: 25 Expiring contract: 3 years, $2,295,000 2022 salary: $825,000
2. OT Terence Steele Age: 25 Expiring contract: 3 years, $2,295,000 2022 salary: $895,000
Of the UFA’s the guys they must resign are McGovern, LVE, and Wilson.
Of the RFA’s it’s a must they resign Steele. Do that and overall their OL is really young and really good!
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Mr B wrote:Of the UFA’s the guys they must resign are McGovern, LVE, and Wilson.
Of the RFA’s it’s a must they resign Steele. Do that and overall their OL is really young and really good!
I might add A. Brown to that list. The drop off from him to fill in the blank was pretty significant when he went down. Beyond that, you & I are in agreement on those others.
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Mr B wrote:Micah Prescott wrote:I think it's too difficult to gauge what to do at RB unless we know the severity of Pollard's injury.
I Pollard is 100%, make him the workhorse, redo Zeke's contract and give him a lesser role. Draft picked saved.
If Pollard is questionable we have to draft a RB no way around it.
I don't think Jerry has any real attachment to Zeke. It's all a front. Dez was "Jerry's boy" too. Amari was Jerry's prized trade. Business comes first for Jerry, I think he'll cut anyone if he needs to.
I don’t think they want to make the same mistake with Pollard that they made with Zeke. In todays game you just don’t pay RB’s big money. You can literally find them at any point in the draft. Pollard himself was a 4th round pick. It makes more sense to invest in the OL and just draft another RB.
Exactly. You do that by paying Pollard and then drafting o-line instead of wasting it on another RB.
I don't want to pay him anything huge, but Pollard does bring a game changing element that is definitely worth something. If his injury took that away (like Gallup) then I don't want him at all.
Speaking of Gallup, he needs to go. He just isn't the playmaker he used to be at all.