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KnixtapeH20 wrote:Lost in all of the injuries is the emergence of Deuce.... he is showing he can be HIM. He looks like one of the better 3 pt shooters on the team, he can attack the rack, blow past defenders and he has the very rare confident mid range that's lost in today's NBA. He's not scared of the moment

His ELITE defense was going to be a big factor in the playoffs. Now it's going to be a HUGE factor along with his offense and facilitating. He's showing he can do it all and for 40+ minutes.... he's work horse.

If OG & Mitch stay healthy and get back up to playing form, Deuce might just be the catalyst to get us to the ECF or at least out of the 2nd round.


Its gona take everybody but it's **** amazing to see Deuce get, and finally run with this opportunity.

dat boy is HIM

Duece gunna make him self an even more coveted piece in these playoffs. Boy is gunna ball out

NYKnickerbocker wrote:Duece gunna make him self an even more coveted piece in these playoffs. Boy is gunna ball out

They're not trading him in some imaginary trade for DM, KAT, Giannis, etc.

He's a key to our success now, not a bargaining chip

The value he brings on his contract is worth far more than someone giving even 50% more in statistical production at 10 times the price

And the odds of getting that much better output even looks unlikely. Deuce can average 16-18 PPG next season coming off the bench

I think I am finally over mourning the loss of Grimes.

Clyde_Style wrote:

NYKnickerbocker wrote:Duece gunna make him self an even more coveted piece in these playoffs. Boy is gunna ball out

They're not trading him in some imaginary trade for DM, KAT, Giannis, etc.

He's a key to our success now, not a bargaining chip

The value he brings on his contract is worth far more than someone giving even 50% more in statistical production at 10 times the price

And the odds of getting that much better output even looks unlikely. Deuce can average 16-18 PPG next season coming off the bench

Deuce is a starting level guard on a winning team. This dude is really, really good. He's becoming Jrue Holiday-esqe. I'm not saying that he is him yet. But, he's in that mold... except a better 3pt shooter.

knicks94 wrote:I think I am finally over mourning the loss of Grimes.

I went through that stage when he was still a Knick

TBH, it was pretty shocking how bad he had the yips this year after showing such incredible promise

I hope his mind gets re-set and he fulfills his potential, but there is no doubt now that whatever self-confidence Grimes was lacking, Deuce has in spades

He's very steady which is something you need to build a contender. He's a bona fide piece now, not just some guy off the bench

drekwins wrote:

Clyde_Style wrote:

NYKnickerbocker wrote:Duece gunna make him self an even more coveted piece in these playoffs. Boy is gunna ball out

They're not trading him in some imaginary trade for DM, KAT, Giannis, etc.

He's a key to our success now, not a bargaining chip

The value he brings on his contract is worth far more than someone giving even 50% more in statistical production at 10 times the price

And the odds of getting that much better output even looks unlikely. Deuce can average 16-18 PPG next season coming off the bench

Deuce is a starting level guard on a winning team. This dude is really, really good. He's becoming Jrue Holiday-esqe. I'm not saying that he is him yet. But, he's in that mold... except a better 3pt shooter.

I'd still peg Deuce as a combo guard, but he could develop his playmaking skills over time. Jrue has some inches on him which does help in defending swing men instead of just guards.

Whatever level he does reach, he continues to evolve and get better so we don't know yet what his ceiling is.

deuce > quick. Leon is a genius

I'm just here so I won't get fined. Doing WVU/Cincinnati proud. 3 years/13 million. Are you kidding me Leon Rose? What a steal.

Clyde_Style wrote:

drekwins wrote:

Clyde_Style wrote:
They're not trading him in some imaginary trade for DM, KAT, Giannis, etc.

He's a key to our success now, not a bargaining chip

The value he brings on his contract is worth far more than someone giving even 50% more in statistical production at 10 times the price

And the odds of getting that much better output even looks unlikely. Deuce can average 16-18 PPG next season coming off the bench

Deuce is a starting level guard on a winning team. This dude is really, really good. He's becoming Jrue Holiday-esqe. I'm not saying that he is him yet. But, he's in that mold... except a better 3pt shooter.

I'd still peg Deuce as a combo guard, but he could develop his playmaking skills over time. Jrue has some inches on him which does help in defending swing men instead of just guards.

Whatever level he does reach, he continues to evolve and get better so we don't know yet what his ceiling is.

Good post

Jrue 6–7 wingspan, Deuce 6-875 wingspan

KnicksGod wrote:

Clyde_Style wrote:

drekwins wrote:
Deuce is a starting level guard on a winning team. This dude is really, really good. He's becoming Jrue Holiday-esqe. I'm not saying that he is him yet. But, he's in that mold... except a better 3pt shooter.

I'd still peg Deuce as a combo guard, but he could develop his playmaking skills over time. Jrue has some inches on him which does help in defending swing men instead of just guards.

Whatever level he does reach, he continues to evolve and get better so we don't know yet what his ceiling is.

Good post

Jrue 6–7 wingspan, Deuce 6-875 wingspan

He does have long arms. Players over 6'5" are still probably best guarded by someone besides Deuce on a regular basis though.

NoStatsGuy wrote:deuce > quick. Leon is a genius

or hear me out, stop comparing

Clyde_Style wrote:

NYKnickerbocker wrote:Duece gunna make him self an even more coveted piece in these playoffs. Boy is gunna ball out

They're not trading him in some imaginary trade for DM, KAT, Giannis, etc.

He's a key to our success now, not a bargaining chip

The value he brings on his contract is worth far more than someone giving even 50% more in statistical production at 10 times the price

And the odds of getting that much better output even looks unlikely. Deuce can average 16-18 PPG next season coming off the bench

he cant, ddv is still here and JU will be back shooting 18 shots a game, aint enough ball to go around. He's as gone as iq was the moment they signed ddv

Meat wrote:

NoStatsGuy wrote:deuce > quick. Leon is a genius

or hear me out, stop comparing

i hear you.. im just saying instead of paying quick 100 mil/4 we got deuce, thats genius.

Meat wrote:

NoStatsGuy wrote:deuce > quick. Leon is a genius

or hear me out, stop comparing

2x is a Knick, IQ is not, we can slander and compare to our hearts content now.

Clyde_Style wrote:

KnicksGod wrote:

Clyde_Style wrote:
I'd still peg Deuce as a combo guard, but he could develop his playmaking skills over time. Jrue has some inches on him which does help in defending swing men instead of just guards.

Whatever level he does reach, he continues to evolve and get better so we don't know yet what his ceiling is.

Good post

Jrue 6–7 wingspan, Deuce 6-875 wingspan

He does have long arms. Players over 6'5" are still probably best guarded by someone besides Deuce on a regular basis though.

I agree with that, just noting that he can disrupt beyond his shortness

Clyde_Style wrote:

NYKnickerbocker wrote:Duece gunna make him self an even more coveted piece in these playoffs. Boy is gunna ball out

They're not trading him in some imaginary trade for DM, KAT, Giannis, etc.

He's a key to our success now, not a bargaining chip

The value he brings on his contract is worth far more than someone giving even 50% more in statistical production at 10 times the price

And the odds of getting that much better output even looks unlikely. Deuce can average 16-18 PPG next season coming off the bench

Appreciate the thought but that’s just sentimental denial. These are still the NY Knicks and they will absolutely 100% opt for a veteran star over young homegrown talent at each and every possible turn.

I’m not saying I agree with it, but it’s foolish and flies in the face of 40 years history to think they’d rather keep Deuce than deal him for a veteran star.

Personally I’m gonna enjoy the ride while it lasts but not get too attached. Randle + Deuce + 4 FRPs will bring back some seriously big game this summer.

Besides, you can probably just cross the bridge or turn on the Yes Network to see him.

cgmw wrote:

Clyde_Style wrote:

NYKnickerbocker wrote:Duece gunna make him self an even more coveted piece in these playoffs. Boy is gunna ball out

They're not trading him in some imaginary trade for DM, KAT, Giannis, etc.

He's a key to our success now, not a bargaining chip

The value he brings on his contract is worth far more than someone giving even 50% more in statistical production at 10 times the price

And the odds of getting that much better output even looks unlikely. Deuce can average 16-18 PPG next season coming off the bench

Appreciate the thought but that’s just sentimental denial. These are still the NY Knicks and they will absolutely 100% opt for a veteran star over young homegrown talent at each and every possible turn.

I’m not saying I agree with it, but it’s foolish and flies in the face of 40 years history to think they’d rather keep Deuce than deal him for a veteran star.

Personally I’m gonna enjoy the ride while it lasts but not get too attached. Randle + Deuce + 4 FRPs will bring back some seriously big game this summer.

Besides, you can probably just cross the bridge or turn on the Yes Network to see him.

You just had to harsh my vibe dude

Clyde_Style wrote:

cgmw wrote:

Clyde_Style wrote:
They're not trading him in some imaginary trade for DM, KAT, Giannis, etc.

He's a key to our success now, not a bargaining chip

The value he brings on his contract is worth far more than someone giving even 50% more in statistical production at 10 times the price

And the odds of getting that much better output even looks unlikely. Deuce can average 16-18 PPG next season coming off the bench

Appreciate the thought but that’s just sentimental denial. These are still the NY Knicks and they will absolutely 100% opt for a veteran star over young homegrown talent at each and every possible turn.

I’m not saying I agree with it, but it’s foolish and flies in the face of 40 years history to think they’d rather keep Deuce than deal him for a veteran star.

Personally I’m gonna enjoy the ride while it lasts but not get too attached. Randle + Deuce + 4 FRPs will bring back some seriously big game this summer.

Besides, you can probably just cross the bridge or turn on the Yes Network to see him.

You just had to harsh my vibe dude

Yah…unfortunately, this might be the case now. I think we’ve seen that it’s not enough for teams to offer picks now in star trades - you need to offer players as well.

However, if a real star level player comes along (no, I mean someone much better than Donovan), then that’s how you get him.

On the plus side, I think the Knicks would be able to replace Deuce. They’ve done well in picking up guys like IQ, Deuce, and Mitch in the late rounds. We get good FA signings like IHart and Donte. Who knows if Jacob Toppin or Precious or someone on our bench right now might be the next guy or if they have targets in this draft? I think if we can replicate Miami’s ability to pick up and develop valuable role players, then that will keep this team sustainable when we go for the next star.