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knicks94 wrote:The only way the Knicks trade for an elite player to compliment Brunson is for that same player to become disgruntled with his team, which though isn’t impossible is not as simple as we think. I mean how many elite players in the last 25 years have jumped ship to another team because they were dissatisfied with the team that drafted them? T-Mac, KG, Lebron, Bosh, Dwight, CP3, Melo, D.Will, KD, AD, Kyrie and Kawhi are the only ones that I can think of. Who would be available for the Knicks in the near future that would be that missing championship piece? I don’t think Luka or Embiid is that piece.

knicks94 wrote:The only way the Knicks trade for an elite player to compliment Brunson is for that same player to become disgruntled with his team, which though isn’t impossible is not as simple as we think. I mean how many elite players in the last 25 years have jumped ship to another team because they were dissatisfied with the team that drafted them? T-Mac, KG, Lebron, Bosh, Dwight, CP3, Melo, D.Will, KD, AD, Kyrie and Kawhi are the only ones that I can think of. Who would be available for the Knicks in the near future that would be that missing championship piece? I don’t think Luka or Embiid is that piece.

Zenzibar wrote:

knicks94 wrote:The only way the Knicks trade for an elite player to compliment Brunson is for that same player to become disgruntled with his team, which though isn’t impossible is not as simple as we think. I mean how many elite players in the last 25 years have jumped ship to another team because they were dissatisfied with the team that drafted them? T-Mac, KG, Lebron, Bosh, Dwight, CP3, Melo, D.Will, KD, AD, Kyrie and Kawhi are the only ones that I can think of. Who would be available for the Knicks in the near future that would be that missing championship piece? I don’t think Luka or Embiid is that piece.

You've mentioned some elite players. The Knicks don't even need these high volume type players. They would need a a Mikal Bridges type to compete for a chip yearly.

Meat wrote:

Zenzibar wrote:

knicks94 wrote:The only way the Knicks trade for an elite player to compliment Brunson is for that same player to become disgruntled with his team, which though isn’t impossible is not as simple as we think. I mean how many elite players in the last 25 years have jumped ship to another team because they were dissatisfied with the team that drafted them? T-Mac, KG, Lebron, Bosh, Dwight, CP3, Melo, D.Will, KD, AD, Kyrie and Kawhi are the only ones that I can think of. Who would be available for the Knicks in the near future that would be that missing championship piece? I don’t think Luka or Embiid is that piece.

You've mentioned some elite players. The Knicks don't even need these high volume type players. They would need a a Mikal Bridges type to compete for a chip yearly.

they do though, they need someone who can create for themselves or others, history has proven that. Unless you're a world eater like steph, which as much as i love jb he's not, you cant do it with a lil guard being your only shot creator

Zenzibar wrote:

Meat wrote:

Zenzibar wrote:
You've mentioned some elite players. The Knicks don't even need these high volume type players. They would need a a Mikal Bridges type to compete for a chip yearly.

they do though, they need someone who can create for themselves or others, history has proven that. Unless you're a world eater like steph, which as much as i love jb he's not, you cant do it with a lil guard being your only shot creator

He's not what? JB is not an elite scorer? Bro, he scored 61 points versus the Spurs and Victor, many IN THE PAINT. The constant talk of being small is just mind-boggling, even after what you dudes have seen this year.

Meat wrote:

Zenzibar wrote:

knicks94 wrote:The only way the Knicks trade for an elite player to compliment Brunson is for that same player to become disgruntled with his team, which though isn’t impossible is not as simple as we think. I mean how many elite players in the last 25 years have jumped ship to another team because they were dissatisfied with the team that drafted them? T-Mac, KG, Lebron, Bosh, Dwight, CP3, Melo, D.Will, KD, AD, Kyrie and Kawhi are the only ones that I can think of. Who would be available for the Knicks in the near future that would be that missing championship piece? I don’t think Luka or Embiid is that piece.

You've mentioned some elite players. The Knicks don't even need these high volume type players. They would need a a Mikal Bridges type to compete for a chip yearly.

they do though, they need someone who can create for themselves or others, history has proven that. Unless you're a world eater like steph, which as much as i love jb he's not, you cant do it with a lil guard being your only shot creator

GONYK wrote:

Meat wrote:

Zenzibar wrote:
You've mentioned some elite players. The Knicks don't even need these high volume type players. They would need a a Mikal Bridges type to compete for a chip yearly.

they do though, they need someone who can create for themselves or others, history has proven that. Unless you're a world eater like steph, which as much as i love jb he's not, you cant do it with a lil guard being your only shot creator

There is a secondary shot creator on this team. He's a 2x All-Star and All-NBA player

Meat wrote:

GONYK wrote:

Meat wrote:
they do though, they need someone who can create for themselves or others, history has proven that. Unless you're a world eater like steph, which as much as i love jb he's not, you cant do it with a lil guard being your only shot creator

There is a secondary shot creator on this team. He's a 2x All-Star and All-NBA player

he'll be here as well, he can be tertiary

KnixtapeH20 wrote:Couldn't happen at a better more opportune time. His defense is ELITE and always has been but now he's in killer mode. He's running the team, attacking the paint, sniping from 3... he's always had the mid range which is rare in today's NBA.

He's just got his confidence thru the roof, which he's never really lacked but it must of been so frustrating not getting a chance to showcase his talent and get consistent minutes to really help this team.

He can flat out WRECK a game with his defense alone. Now he's showing he can be an important 2-way player.... that is HUGE for us at the PERFECT time. He adds a special talent to a fully healthy team but given our state of injuries he's proving even more vital.

He's proving he can be trusted. This is like getting a 1st round ready draft pick or trading for an impact player right before the playoffs.... aka Marcus Smart

DrCoach wrote:Time for people to admit that Thibs develops players

GONYK wrote:

Meat wrote:

GONYK wrote:
There is a secondary shot creator on this team. He's a 2x All-Star and All-NBA player

he'll be here as well, he can be tertiary

I don't know how many upper-tier shot creators

1. Can play well off the ball, since Jalen is and will remain our main creator
2. Are willing to play 18-20 mins off the bench if they can't play off the ball
3. Are available without needing to cut into the core pieces of the team

Meat wrote:

GONYK wrote:

Meat wrote:he'll be here as well, he can be tertiary

I don't know how many upper-tier shot creators

1. Can play well off the ball, since Jalen is and will remain our main creator
2. Are willing to play 18-20 mins off the bench if they can't play off the ball
3. Are available without needing to cut into the core pieces of the team

i hate to say it cuz i dont love him, but if you wanna keep the core together maybe murray if atl breaks it up