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Re: 2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 5:26 pm
by thebuzzardman
moocow007 wrote:
Fat Kat wrote:
Read on Twitter


His lack of shot creating ability or shooting is a bit concerning. Defensively and from a finishing standpoint he looks great.

Is Son of Leon his agent?

Re: 2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 8:34 pm
by moocow007
thebuzzardman wrote:
moocow007 wrote:
Fat Kat wrote:
Read on Twitter


His lack of shot creating ability or shooting is a bit concerning. Defensively and from a finishing standpoint he looks great.

Is Son of Leon his agent?


Not sure but he is signed with CAA so... :D

Re: 2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 2:47 am
by Jeffrey
thebuzzardman wrote:
moocow007 wrote:
Fat Kat wrote:
Read on Twitter


His lack of shot creating ability or shooting is a bit concerning. Defensively and from a finishing standpoint he looks great.

Is Son of Leon his agent?


So this guy might be Andre Roberson?

Re: 2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 4:49 pm
by moocow007
As of right now I'm looking at this group of guys as possibilities with the Knicks picks (assuming they use both). You can argue that one or more will be gone by the time the Knicks pick and it's possible. But you never know. In no particular order:

Tristan Da Silva
Tidjane Salaun
Ulrich Chomche
Tyler Smith

Obviously some may already be out of reach and others might once workouts start. But if I really like someone, I would look to trade both 1sts and see if I can move up to get a guy I really like than settle for the ability to make 2 selections. I just don't see the Knicks having a depth need and honestly you can argue they really don't have any active roster needs. I would look to add talent and if I have to move up I would (if for example I really believe in Salaun and his crazy versatility upside or Da Silva overall immediate roster impact skills). As of right now I'm thinking that all of these guys are at least in the range of being able to trade up to draft (not talking about top sure bet lottery guys).

The Knicks aren't really in a position to have to have someone that fills a need from the draft POV (they can fill needs via trade or FA as they are in position for proven talent). So they can go with guys like this that have potential high impact at the NBA level even if there is an element of (higher than expected) risk with a few of these guys.

Re: 2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 5:05 pm
by sol537
moocow007 wrote:As of right now I'm looking at this group of guys as possibilities with the Knicks picks (assuming they use both). You can argue that one or more will be gone by the time the Knicks pick and it's possible. But you never know. In no particular order:

Tristan Da Silva
Tidjane Salaun
Ulrich Chomche
Tyler Smith

Obviously some may already be out of reach and others might once workouts start. But if I really like someone, I would look to trade both 1sts and see if I can move up to get a guy I really like than settle for the ability to make 2 selections. I just don't see the Knicks having a depth need and honestly you can argue they really don't have any active roster needs. I would look to add talent and if I have to move up I would (if for example I really believe in Salaun and his crazy versatility upside or Da Silva overall immediate roster impact skills). As of right now I'm thinking that all of these guys are at least in the range of being able to trade up to draft (not talking about top sure bet lottery guys).

The Knicks aren't really in a position to have to have someone that fills a need from the draft POV (they can fill needs via trade or FA as they are in position for proven talent). So they can go with guys like this that have potential high impact at the NBA level even if there is an element of (higher than expected) risk with a few of these guys.


Gimme the guys that closest protect to be Tre Murphy / Mikal Bridges type players... let's keep loading up those types like New Orleans has wisely been doing... Not sure if people see how effective Tre Murphy was at shutting down one of the most elite scorers in the league (SGA)... keep loading up on elite defenders and you can beat any team...

Re: 2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 5:06 pm
by moocow007
Separate shout out to DJ Burns as the possible 2nd coming of Oliver Miller. Burns skillset and quick feet despite being AT LEAST 350lbs reminds me of Miller. And Oliver Miller was a very good player in the NBA.

Re: 2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 5:30 pm
by moocow007
NBA.com's BR mock draft has picks 24 and 25 (the Knicks current selections) as Tidjan Salaun and Ulrich Chomche while Tankathon has Tyler Smith and Johnny Furphy.

Salaun was a projected high lottery pick but he's been dropping on some mocks due to his (significant) inconsistency. But you have some who believes that if things click on Salaun can be an absolute monster (possibly even best talent in draft). He's currently anywhere from late lottery to late 1st depending on opinion.

Re: 2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 5:32 pm
by moocow007
sol537 wrote:
moocow007 wrote:As of right now I'm looking at this group of guys as possibilities with the Knicks picks (assuming they use both). You can argue that one or more will be gone by the time the Knicks pick and it's possible. But you never know. In no particular order:

Tristan Da Silva
Tidjane Salaun
Ulrich Chomche
Tyler Smith

Obviously some may already be out of reach and others might once workouts start. But if I really like someone, I would look to trade both 1sts and see if I can move up to get a guy I really like than settle for the ability to make 2 selections. I just don't see the Knicks having a depth need and honestly you can argue they really don't have any active roster needs. I would look to add talent and if I have to move up I would (if for example I really believe in Salaun and his crazy versatility upside or Da Silva overall immediate roster impact skills). As of right now I'm thinking that all of these guys are at least in the range of being able to trade up to draft (not talking about top sure bet lottery guys).

The Knicks aren't really in a position to have to have someone that fills a need from the draft POV (they can fill needs via trade or FA as they are in position for proven talent). So they can go with guys like this that have potential high impact at the NBA level even if there is an element of (higher than expected) risk with a few of these guys.


Gimme the guys that closest protect to be Tre Murphy / Mikal Bridges type players... let's keep loading up those types like New Orleans has wisely been doing... Not sure if people see how effective Tre Murphy was at shutting down one of the most elite scorers in the league (SGA)... keep loading up on elite defenders and you can beat any team...


I don't know if any of these guys are as sure bet or as high upside as either guy (why they are could be available in the Knicks range) but yeah you want versatile multi talented guys that can produce on both ends in some form of fashion (vs just a "specialist" that does one thing) with some potential high upside. That's why I like the 4 guys I listed as they bring a lot of talent, upside and versatility on both ends. There's risk (again what you get where the Knicks draft) but plenty to be really pleased about.

Re: 2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2024 6:22 pm
by sol537
Fingers crossed! We got three swings at it, potentially... 24, 25, 38 I believe... the best teams always find gems that become starters or solid bench players in the lower end of the draft. Would be nice to hit on one or two of those picks... another McBride or Mitch Robinson please....

Re: 2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 7:23 pm
by moocow007
Not a video touting his basketball skills but rather about the type of person and player Tristan Da Silva is.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C4BtMvBPjk5/?utm_source=ig_web_button_native_share

This is the type of person that winning teams want. And then you get the plus that he's got terrific skills and a super high BB IQ.

Re: 2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 12:03 am
by Luv those Knicks
They have 4 picks this draft, 24, 25 and I think 38 and 43, right? No way they carry 4 rookies, so some trades are coming. Maybe they carry 2.

Re: 2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 8:35 pm
by moocow007
Luv those Knicks wrote:They have 4 picks this draft, 24, 25 and I think 38 and 43, right? No way they carry 4 rookies, so some trades are coming. Maybe they carry 2.


If not using it for a bigger trade, maybe even trade up to get someone that they like more that might not be around at 24. Not sure how many teams are interested in extra picks and moving down though in this draft.

Re: 2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 11:14 pm
by Luv those Knicks
moocow007 wrote:
Luv those Knicks wrote:They have 4 picks this draft, 24, 25 and I think 38 and 43, right? No way they carry 4 rookies, so some trades are coming. Maybe they carry 2.


If not using it for a bigger trade, maybe even trade up to get someone that they like more that might not be around at 24. Not sure how many teams are interested in extra picks and moving down though in this draft.


NY counts on other teams being interested in those picks. I don't see any way they can carry 4 rookies, so . . . time will tell. I'm sure they're going to try hard to swing a trade.

2023 was interesting, because they were reportedly trying to trade for a pick, which didn't happen. Usually they're looking to trade picks or trade down for extra draft capital in the future.

Re: 2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2024 5:07 pm
by WargamesX
I still like PJ Hall for the knicks as a decent bench PF.... He would be the third string PF but could eventually see minutes like Mcbride has.

Re: 2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 8:07 pm
by The Lamma
Luv those Knicks wrote:They have 4 picks this draft, 24, 25 and I think 38 and 43, right? No way they carry 4 rookies, so some trades are coming. Maybe they carry 2.


We don't have the 43, but the rest is correct.

What's encouraging about where we are picking is the FO has done well in this range. IQ was picked 25. Deuce and Mitch were both picked 36.

Re: 2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 11:25 pm
by Luv those Knicks
The Lamma wrote:
Luv those Knicks wrote:They have 4 picks this draft, 24, 25 and I think 38 and 43, right? No way they carry 4 rookies, so some trades are coming. Maybe they carry 2.


We don't have the 43, but the rest is correct.

What's encouraging about where we are picking is the FO has done well in this range. IQ was picked 25. Deuce and Mitch were both picked 36.


oops.

I think I got that from NBAdraft.net, but they no longer show it. 3 picks. I'm still betting they're going to do some kind of swap.

Re: 2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 2:54 pm
by Hes_On_Fire
Luv those Knicks wrote:
The Lamma wrote:
Luv those Knicks wrote:They have 4 picks this draft, 24, 25 and I think 38 and 43, right? No way they carry 4 rookies, so some trades are coming. Maybe they carry 2.


We don't have the 43, but the rest is correct.

What's encouraging about where we are picking is the FO has done well in this range. IQ was picked 25. Deuce and Mitch were both picked 36.


oops.

I think I got that from NBAdraft.net, but they no longer show it. 3 picks. I'm still betting they're going to do some kind of swap.


We need at least 2 draft picks on this roster. A good team drafts and develops players even while winning. Can’t keep trading picks for veterans. Having some good young talent on small deals will be beneficial for our cap situation.

Re: 2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD

Posted: Fri May 3, 2024 4:30 pm
by 8516knicks
It's time to actually use a draft pick.

Of Obi, RJ, IQ, Grimes and Deuce, only Deuce remains (also Sims). We need to stock the pipeline again.

We've probably plucked all the low hanging fruit - undervalued guys who can be had in trade or FA (Novas, OG, Ihart, etc.; Can Shamet play? Will we ever find out?) and with the INJURY APOCALYPSE there's no guarantee that even IF we get a good star in trade they'll make it all the way through the Playoffs (see Embid, Giannis) unscathed.

Re: 2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD

Posted: Fri May 3, 2024 4:32 pm
by 8516knicks
The Lamma wrote:
Luv those Knicks wrote:They have 4 picks this draft, 24, 25 and I think 38 and 43, right? No way they carry 4 rookies, so some trades are coming. Maybe they carry 2.


We don't have the 43, but the rest is correct.

What's encouraging about where we are picking is the FO has done well in this range. IQ was picked 25. Deuce and Mitch were both picked 36.


Not to mention Hart was I think around 29 and Brunson 33.

Re: 2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD

Posted: Fri May 3, 2024 6:42 pm
by lloydj
Stephon Castle (UConn) would be great pick for the Knicks, they would have to trade up to get him. A ball handling Shooting Guard, which could let Deuce play off ball. 8-)