Magic to sign C.J. Watson to an offer sheet.

OMagic1989 · Post #61 » by **OMagic1989** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 2:21 am

Mix for CJ on youtube!

Quick shooter young and fast and has some hops very good 3 pt shooter and hits high rate of free throws. Good attitude.

I especially like how he makes Rondo look like a fool on one play!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y858hGmWZoU

OMagic1989 · Post #62 » by **OMagic1989** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 2:23 am

Devin 1L wrote:I love this move.

Wow. It's weird, throughout the past, the team has generally done a series of moves which I range from like to dislike, but this off-season I really like everything we're doing. A move I did not expect, but that I very much approve of. I can't say how excited I'm getting for next season.

YES

AGENTSTEVO · Post #63 » by **AGENTSTEVO** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 2:25 am

I would take CJ over Barnes. We are in need of a pg. Also, we have a lot of wing players. Carter, Pietrus, and Redick could play the 2. Carter, Pietrus, Lewis, and Anderson could all play at the 3. Barnes isn't really a necessity. I think that CJ is. Then we would be 3 deep at the pg position. Nelson, Watson, and Johnson.

OMagic1989 · Post #64 » by **OMagic1989** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 2:27 am

I get the feeling JJ is going to be traded this offseason. Just a hunch. Could be wrong.

wepr3 · Post #65 » by **wepr3** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 2:27 am

I think this is a great pickup, if the Warriors don't match. But I gotta say, it's depressing to me if this means the end of our Barnes pursuit. I still think having another multi-talented wing player is a must for our bench.

AGENTSTEVO · Post #66 » by **AGENTSTEVO** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 2:28 am

OMagic1989 wrote:I get the feeling JJ is going to be traded this offseason. Just a hunch. Could be wrong.

Maybe, but Otis wouldn't trade him all the other times. I would say no unless it was an offer Otis couldn't pass up.

waazup · Post #67 » by **waazup** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 2:41 am

Coming from a Warriors fan, there is like a 5% chance we match. CJ is an below-average to average backup PG. He can score pretty well, but lacks court vision, passing, toughness, defense, etc. Plus the warriors have a LOGJAM with their guard spots (Monta, Curry, Morrow, Belli, Jax, Buke, Law).

I see him as a good fit with Orlando.

DiplomaticMagic · Post #68 » by **DiplomaticMagic** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 3:00 am

Warriors fans don't seem too fond on Watson.

I remember the same with Pietrus though.

Blue_and_Whte · Post #69 » by **Blue_and_Whte** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 3:04 am

dsg2021 wrote:
magicman123 wrote::D

good pick and roll player, esp. last season showed improvement, as he can shoot great off the dribble AND catch-and-shoot spots.

blue_and_whte wrote:Good p&r player b/c of his ability to pull up. Nice high release on his jumper. Good consistancy. He's a pretty pesky defender. He could avg more assists in SVG's system. We will see.

yeah

Blue_and_Whte · Post #70 » by **Blue_and_Whte** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 3:05 am

DiplomaticMagic wrote:Warriors fans don't seem too fond on Watson.

I remember the same with Pietrus though.

of course not

OMagic1989 · Post #71 » by **OMagic1989** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 3:06 am

He is young and still can develop with the right coaching and system. Remember Hedo was just a role player before stan and especially before coming to Orlando.

Pietrus is coming along nicely.

Stan can teach him how to play defense.

Blue_and_Whte · Post #72 » by **Blue_and_Whte** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 3:19 am

waazup wrote:Coming from a Warriors fan, there is like a 5% chance we match. CJ is an below-average to average backup PG. He can score pretty well, but lacks court vision, passing, toughness, defense, etc. Plus the warriors have a LOGJAM with their guard spots (Monta, Curry, Morrow, Belli, Jax, Buke, Law).

I see him as a good fit with Orlando.

some ofthe highlights I've seen indicate that hes pretty nice court vision but those are highlights. Of course you've seen him play more than I have so....

Shishnizzle · Post #73 » by **Shishnizzle** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 3:26 am

I definitely have faith in our coaching staff to get em coached up.

Horcy · Post #74 » by **Horcy** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 3:30 am

I would take CJ over Barnes too. We definitely need a guy like him.
He is a very good young player (and underrated too). If we sign him for cheap it would be another steal!!

RvM · Post #75 » by **RvM** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 3:37 am

The thing is, this guy is still pretty young and can be a solid backup and he and Anthony Johnson could be use for different situations.

Plus looking at some of his highlights and stats, he'd be a solid sign. Plus I don't think GSW matches with all the guards they have.

also since Barnes isn't coming here it seems.

NEM · Post #76 » by **NEM** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 3:40 am

great pick up if we actually do get him. hard to tell whether we will or not cause the warriors love guards and 1.7 isnt necessarily a steep price... we should be called the orlando warriors

watson
mp
vince (remember he was drafted by them)
hendrix (if we get him)
foyle

and otis used to be a GM for them if i remember correctly

dsg2021 · Post #77 » by **dsg2021** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 6:00 am

I think it depends on the contract details of Watson moreso than the beginning year. Like 1.7mil 1st yr, but with incentives/bonuses, and even worse, the Magic span it to 3 or 4 seasons along the lines with their core players at the standard 8% annual raise I think it is. That would seem toxic to a team with 11 guards, and thats still just a bargain for a team with 1 All Star PG and 1 35 yr old dude, esp. b/c Magic handpicked him from the market this summer, and is so young and a good shooter already.

Twinkie defense · Post #78 » by **Twinkie defense** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 6:07 am

If CJ is not S&T'd I can't imagine the Warriors wouldn't match at less than $2 mil per.

He played 24 mpg last season. Here are our combo guards:

Monta - best of the bunch but he's not a real pg
Curry - rookie
Law - to be cut, traded, or ride the pine
Speedy - most likely retire

All together that adds up to about one starting pg. Who's going to be the backup? Plus at $1.7 or $1.8 mil CJ will make less than any of them.

Cigamodnalro · Post #79 » by **Cigamodnalro** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 6:08 am

RawLewD12 wrote:great pick up if we actually do get him. hard to tell whether we will or not cause the warriors love guards and 1.7 isnt necessarily a steep price... we should be called the orlando warriors

watson
mp
vince (remember he was drafted by them)
hendrix (if we get him)
foyle

and otis used to be a GM for them if i remember correctly

Twardzik and Otis were both Golden State guys. I'm sure they still have a lot of connections in the GS front office.

NEM · Post #80 » by **NEM** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 6:35 am

Cigamodnalro wrote:
RawLewD12 wrote:great pick up if we actually do get him. hard to tell whether we will or not cause the warriors love guards and 1.7 isnt necessarily a steep price... we should be called the orlando warriors

watson
mp
vince (remember he was drafted by them)
hendrix (if we get him)
foyle

and otis used to be a GM for them if i remember correctly

Twardzik and Otis were both Golden State guys. I'm sure they still have a lot of connections in the GS front office.

another reason why gsw wont match... im sure otis has something worked out with them so that they dont match