2023-24 English Premier League Discussion Thread

Post #41 » by **Baphomet** » Mon Aug 14, 2023 8:58 pm

I don't think I've ever seen a team more ineffectual in front of goal than Wolves.

Outplayed United at Old Trafford. And somehow the ref didn't think Onana clattering Kalajdzic constituted a clear and obvious error.

MaliBrah · Post #42 » by **MaliBrah** » Mon Aug 14, 2023 8:59 pm

How? All I have to ask is how?

MaliBrah · Post #43 » by **MaliBrah** » Mon Aug 14, 2023 9:03 pm

"clear and obvious" is the biggest load of **** ever man. They refuse to make decisions on the field and then VAR just say.. "not clear and obvious. It's easy

MetalFingaz · Post #44 » by **MetalFingaz** » Mon Aug 14, 2023 9:03 pm

Well the Premier League is back in full swing, and as ever, penalty decisions are completely inscrutable.

Post #45 » by **Shaazzam** » Mon Aug 14, 2023 9:05 pm

Like, obviously I'm happy no penalty but man. Onana annihilated him. Had a great game otherwise, but that guy got smashed.

MetalFingaz · Post #46 » by **MetalFingaz** » Mon Aug 14, 2023 9:22 pm

United have to be a bit concerned that time and again a Wolves player would turn the first presser and then have 30 yards of space to run into. Extremely lucky to come away with 3 points.

Post #47 » by **Shaazzam** » Tue Aug 15, 2023 4:25 am

Casemiro did not look good today. And not really sure what Mount or Bruno did. Need to rewatch.

MaliBrah · Post #48 » by **MaliBrah** » Tue Aug 15, 2023 2:20 pm

Shaazzam wrote:Casemiro did not look good today. And not really sure what Mount or Bruno did. Need to rewatch.

felt like ETH pushed the two 8's bruno and mason high , and it left Casemiro on an island against 4 guys LOL

MaliBrah · Post #49 » by **MaliBrah** » Tue Aug 15, 2023 2:20 pm

KDB with a serious hamstring injury and may undergo surgery leaving him out until the new year sheesh. I'm sorry but the drop off from KDB/Gundo to Kovacic/Paqueta is nuts .... they have to fall off right? ... right? :banghead:

big year for foden , he can bridge that gap and hold the fort down.

MaliBrah · Post #50 » by **MaliBrah** » Tue Aug 15, 2023 2:23 pm

Foye's boy Cunha was incredible yesterday btw , except for the finishing part :lol:

Foye · Post #51 » by **Foye** » Tue Aug 15, 2023 2:40 pm

MaliBrah wrote:Foye's boy Cunha was incredible yesterday btw , except for the finishing part

10 mil. seems about the right price tag for a showboating striker who doesn't defend and only occassionally scores or assists.

MetalFingaz · Post #52 » by **MetalFingaz** » Tue Aug 15, 2023 7:09 pm

Foye wrote:
MaliBrah wrote:Foye's boy Cunha was incredible yesterday btw , except for the finishing part

10 mil. seems about the right price tag for a showboating striker who doesn't defend and only occassionally scores or assists.

Listen if every team defends like United did yesterday (that is, not at all), he might grab a goal or two this season!

Post #53 » by **Shaazzam** » Tue Aug 15, 2023 10:19 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/aug/15/premier-league-wolves-manchester-united-howard-webb

MetalFingaz · Post #54 » by **MetalFingaz** » Wed Aug 16, 2023 12:21 am

Shaazzam wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/aug/15/premier-league-wolves-manchester-united-howard-webb

Shambolic. This "audio explanation" thing doesn't make any sense either. In the World Cup, this explanation is "After review, this is/isn't a penalty" which provides no new information; we'll know if something is a penalty when the penalty is taken. I'd be much more interested to hear the official explain why they think Onana wiping out 2 players in the box is or isn't a legal challenge, but I assume we'll never get that level of transparency.

Post #55 » by **Shaazzam** » Wed Aug 16, 2023 1:36 am

The good thing is that refs will lose work for horrid decisions, so some accountability is being made. Doesn't help Wolves, but meh, we got three points midday suckas!

HIF · Post #56 » by **HIF** » Wed Aug 16, 2023 7:14 am

Shaazzam wrote:The good thing is that refs will lose work for horrid decisions, so some accountability is being made. Doesn't help Wolves, but meh, we got three points midday suckas!

VAR was supposed to help level the bias towards "big" clubs. It isn't.

I have always been a big fan of technology getting the decisions right and improving the game but having watched the first 3 Leicester matches this season, I think that no VAR is better for the game and fans than the present ludicrous situation. The Championship does not use VAR and the atmosphere is better for it.

Post #57 » by **Shaazzam** » Wed Aug 16, 2023 1:23 pm

HIF wrote:
Shaazzam wrote:The good thing is that refs will lose work for horrid decisions, so some accountability is being made. Doesn't help Wolves, but meh, we got three points midday suckas!

VAR was supposed to help level the bias towards "big" clubs. It isn't.

I have always been a big fan of technology getting the decisions right and improving the game but having watched the first 3 Leicester matches this season, I think that no VAR is better for the game and fans than the present ludicrous situation. The Championship does not use VAR and the atmosphere is better for it.

I generally am restrained when UTD scores because it always goes to a VAR check.

Baseline81 · Post #58 » by **Baseline81** » Wed Aug 16, 2023 1:46 pm

HIF wrote:VAR was supposed to help level the bias towards "big" clubs. It isn't.

I have always been a big fan of technology getting the decisions right and improving the game but having watched the first 3 Leicester matches this season, I think that no VAR is better for the game and fans than the present ludicrous situation. The Championship does not use VAR and the atmosphere is better for it.

It does seem as if several decisions have gone against clubs outside the "big" ones.

I keep coming back to the Manchester City - Everton match a year or so ago. Lampard received a similar apology after a blatant hand ball by Rodri. Of course Liverpool fell one point shy of winning the league.

wco81 · Post #59 » by **wco81** » Sat Aug 19, 2023 6:14 pm

Good matches today.

Newcastle-City still to come.

AK47MVP · Post #60 » by **AK47MVP** » Sat Aug 19, 2023 6:34 pm

Man U was terrible today....Not sure why Mount is starting who clearly has no chemistry with Bruno or Casemiro - pretty much invisible . Make up no penalty call against Romero as that handball was as clear and obvious as it could be yet VAR said no penalty lol.... Spurs where dominant in second half and could have scored more.