Norm2953 wrote:The ACC is the next conference that will be impacted for FSU is already making noises about
wanting out with North Carolina, Clemson, MIami and perhaps Virginia waiting to see if FSU
can escape without paying exit penalties
ESPN has the grant of rights for the ACC for another decade. Unless the teams can come up with some serious cash ($120M minimum, but potentially up to $300M), the only way they get out is if ESPN decides they want to let them out of their $40M/season deal out of kindness, which really doesn't sound like Disney.
PDXKnight wrote:I'm not sure i get the basketball powerhouse mentality. I'd contend osu is a far better get given their football potential as a rising program and ties to the portland market
The Pac12 (minus USC/UCLA) uneven revenue share document from ESPN leaked. UO/UW were at the top. OSU/Wazzu were at the bottom. The networks don't value OSU/Wazzu. If the Big 12 wanted them, they would have invites.
As for the basketball thing, two networks run college sports - ESPN and Fox. No Big 12 match up in football is going to compare to what the SEC and Big Ten can provide. So, what do you do as a conference to prove your worth to ESPN and Fox if you can't provide must see football games? You focus on the #2 sport - basketball. What Brett Yormark is doing given what he has to work with is brilliant. He totally outplayed the Pac12 at every single thing. I wish he was the Blazers GM.
PDXKnight wrote:To anyone expecting the civil war to continue I wouldn't hold your breath in the near future. In The oregon presser for the B1G Rob Mullens hinted that oregon would like to continue the rivalry but might be hard given the complexity of pre planned schedules. Thats code, to me, for we will try but it probably won't happen until we can plan it without dropping teams out of conference so probably 5-10 years till we see home and home football series' happen.
Great point. I totally forgot the Big Ten plays 9 conference games. Oregon has 3 (4 one year @ Hawai'i) until 2029. Oregon State has 3 out of conference opponents scheduled until 2028.
That said, if they wanted to, they could easily buyout the FCS cupcake game. Hey Idaho and Montana State, here's free money to not have to play a football game. Would they? That's a question for the accountants. Oregon obviously could. And it would be great for the fans. But you're also losing a guaranteed win and a chance to play backup players that wouldn't otherwise play. And if Oregon State gets relegated to a Mountain West deal, can they afford to break contracts? The TV networks could theoretically pay the buyout fees. But would they? I doubt it.
Norm2953 wrote:Stanford could go independent for I've read their endowment programs are enormous, in line
with all the power house programs.
The Big 12 with Gonzaga would be a powerhouse basketball conference, perhaps #1 if the ACC
ends up splintering . OSU/WSU are lightweights in the grand scheme of things for the Ducks in
the B1G would own the Portland TV market. They however might really elevate the MWC, especially
if the MWC ends up poaching some AAC schools to form an alternate conference to the big boys
These other conferences need to look ahead or else the B1G and SEC will swallow up the rest
with the ACC next up.
Stanford will have talks with all of the conferences, because that's what you do. You'd be foolish not to. But I agree that I see them going independent and probably dropping a few Olympic sports that don't drive revenue. But don't forget - as much as Uncle Phil is associated with Oregon, he also attended and has donated heavily to Stanford. I am sure they will end up fine. And pending Notre Dame joining the Big Ten, they have a seat. Get the conference to 20. Pods of 5. Makes total sense, but again Notre Dame somehow is gaming the system. Can't blame them for not wanting to join a super conference if they don't have to.
The one good thing for Oregon State/Wazzu is that there will always be at least one non-power conference playoff spot available. All you have to do is win that match up, then beat Boise State and SDSU, and you're probably in. Much easier path to a playoff appearance than the gauntlet UO/UW signed themselves up for.