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Re: OT - Raptors Global Ambassador vs Kendrick 

Post#361 » by LoveMyRaps » Wed May 8, 2024 11:17 pm

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Illmatic. Don't need to say anything.

Lupe's Food & Liquor and The Cool. Nothing else he has done touches those first two LPs.


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Stuff like this takes me back to the good 'ol days...


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Re: OT - Raptors Global Ambassador vs Kendrick 

Post#362 » by YogurtProducer » Wed May 8, 2024 11:20 pm

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Lupe's Food & Liquor and The Cool. Nothing else he has done touches those first two LPs.

Tetsuo and Youth is up there IMO
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Re: OT - Raptors Global Ambassador vs Kendrick 

Post#363 » by tecumseh18 » Wed May 8, 2024 11:31 pm

LoveMyRaps wrote:The point of a rap battle is to evaluate the quality of the diss tracks and decide on a winner based on who had the better bars.

It's clear, and quite evident in this thread, that people declared Kendrick the winner because of Drake's "off-court issues".

I've never been a big fan of Drake, I appreciate what he's done for the city but in terms of GTA music there are SEVERAL talents that I like over him (The Weeknd, Tory Lanez, PartyNextDoor, DVSN).

None of Drake's albums are anywhere near my top 10 hip-hop/rap albums. Possibly not even top 20.
(F&L, The Cool, Illmatic, Late Registration, College Dropout, TCII & III, Blueprint - some of my personal favorites off the top of my head in no order).

WITH ALL THAT BEING SAID - I've been listening to Rap music for a VERY LONG time. I can admit Kendrick is, and always has been, the better lyricist in comparison to Drake.

However, I would not use this "rap battle" to support that claim. Because if we're evaluating each track solely based off lyricism than Drake, for sure, got the better of Kendrick.

Kendrick's delivery and flow is lethal, so even if he says the most basic line like "your son's a sick man with sick thoughts, I think n***** like him should die" - people will go bezerk over it. Like calm down...

Or when Kendrick said "there's no big 3, only big me" - people thought it was some monumental diss. :lol:

MTG was my personal favorite, Euphoria A VERY CLOSE 2nd - however, MTG is just straight up weird now cuz he dedicates a good chunk of the track to a non-existent child that was supposed to be Drake's daughter. He looks like a fool now. But nonetheless, I commend his strategy to drop it right after Family Matter.

My favorite line from Kendrick was "Tryna strike a chord and it's probably A minor" - see now that is called bars.

But Drake countered that beautifully with: "You mentionin' A minor, but n****s gotta B sharp and tell the fans, "Who was it?"
You thought you left D flat, D major ('D made ya')"

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Drake recites the line to sound like he is also saying, “D made ya”, claiming that Kendrick’s success is thanks to what Drake has done for him. In February of 2012 Drake invited Kendrick to open on the Club Paradise Tour when he was on the come up. This helped Kendrick garner attention during the early phase of his career.


Now those are the types of bars I wanted to hear. But this battle got weird real quick.
From both rapper spewing nonsense to people declaring Kendrick the winner before even giving Drake a chance.

I'm impressed by Drake, because he didn't back down from a literal 20v1 and even held his own against Kendrick, who is a very good (not elite) lyricist in his own right.
But people won't give Drake credit because he's an alleged pedo... even though that literally has nothing to do with who makes better music.

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https://genius.com/Drake-push-ups-lyrics
https://genius.com/Drake-family-matters-lyrics


Well put, coming from a Fear of a Black Planet, Paul's Boutique, Midnight Marauders kinda guy (and generation), I thank you for bringing some context to this discussion. Although I'd add that any art is always a matrix of techniques and attitude, so lyrical flow and beats - not just lyrics - matter in judging the quality of the work product being generated here.

But Kendrick has to be considered an elite lyricist, is he not? Del would be my all time fave in that regard. But when Kendrick came along, it was like, bing bong, here's the new top dog.
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Re: OT - Raptors Global Ambassador vs Kendrick 

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Re: OT - Raptors Global Ambassador vs Kendrick 

Post#366 » by ThatClockWork » Thu May 9, 2024 1:33 am

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Damn, what happened to civic pride?

For them, the hard cope continues.

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Another coping angle with some micro-aggression undertones. You want Kendrick's fans to be degenerates so bad.
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Re: OT - Raptors Global Ambassador vs Kendrick 

Post#367 » by LoveMyRaps » Thu May 9, 2024 2:01 am

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Lupe's Food & Liquor and The Cool. Nothing else he has done touches those first two LPs.

Tetsuo and Youth is up there IMO


T&Y is HEAVILY slept on. It's a masterpiece.
I honestly very much enjoyed F&L II as well - Form Follows Function, Lamborghini Angels, Strange Fruition, etc.
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Re: OT - Raptors Global Ambassador vs Kendrick 

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Re: OT - Raptors Global Ambassador vs Kendrick 

Post#369 » by UnderdogRaptors » Thu May 9, 2024 4:32 am

This version of pushups is so much better

https://youtu.be/P_odIhjnm8E?si=uOh0ofAfMylG_2VC
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Re: OT - Raptors Global Ambassador vs Kendrick 

Post#370 » by will » Thu May 9, 2024 8:54 am

UnderdogRaptors wrote:This version of pushups is so much better

https://youtu.be/P_odIhjnm8E?si=uOh0ofAfMylG_2VC


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Re: OT - Raptors Global Ambassador vs Kendrick 

Post#371 » by UnderdogRaptors » Thu May 9, 2024 10:04 am

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UnderdogRaptors wrote:This version of pushups is so much better

https://youtu.be/P_odIhjnm8E?si=uOh0ofAfMylG_2VC


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Re: OT - Raptors Global Ambassador vs Kendrick 

Post#372 » by will » Thu May 9, 2024 10:24 am

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will wrote:
UnderdogRaptors wrote:This version of pushups is so much better

https://youtu.be/P_odIhjnm8E?si=uOh0ofAfMylG_2VC


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Re: OT - Raptors Global Ambassador vs Kendrick 

Post#373 » by ATLTimekeeper » Thu May 9, 2024 11:34 am

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YogurtProducer wrote:Wild how out of touch some of you are.

Does no one here know anything about how many rich and famous dudes do sketchy **** for years before they get caught? Cosby, Weinstein, etc. did worse than what Drake is rumored to and it took decades for them to come down.


For the record, I'm not denying that the accusations are improbable. I'm saying that there's nothing there beyond some internet gossip at this point, and so I doubt the Raptors would be worried about it. These allegations have been around a long time and the extent of damning evidence seems to be that Drake kissed a 17 year old onstage years ago. If it wasn't a big deal then, I don't see how it's a deal breaker now just because a famous rapper brought it up in a musical argument.

If some women start talking to the media or charges get pressed, then I think you would see a shift in corporate attitude.

We currently have millions of streams in which the premise of the song is that Drake is a pedophile and that OVO is now being sung as "O-V-Hoe".

If you don't think the Raptors are talking about this IDK what to say. They are 100% going to likely distance themselves from Drake, even if it is somewhat of an overreaction. No NBA team will want to associate with this beef on the off chance the accusations are actually accurate. Drake is already barely seen here, it would not take much for them to severe ties quietly.


Millions of streams for a musical argument won't move the needle. Like you seem to admit, it's an off chance. Kendrick won't lose his sponsorships, either.
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Re: OT - Raptors Global Ambassador vs Kendrick 

Post#374 » by Westside Gunn » Thu May 9, 2024 1:32 pm

LoveMyRaps wrote:
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Lupe's Food & Liquor and The Cool. Nothing else he has done touches those first two LPs.

Tetsuo and Youth is up there IMO


T&Y is HEAVILY slept on. It's a masterpiece.
I honestly very much enjoyed F&L II as well - Form Follows Function, Lamborghini Angels, Strange Fruition, etc.


Agreed about T&Y, I still listen to it top to bottom to this day.

Drogas wave also the same.

Lupe makes really good albums for sure.
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Re: OT - Raptors Global Ambassador vs Kendrick 

Post#375 » by Brinbe » Thu May 9, 2024 2:08 pm

Yep. Lupe always been one of the most talented lyricists out there. Had his nice run in the mainstream and Drogas Wave and T&Y were excellent projects. And most everything he was doing up till enemy of the state had him right near the top till things got stalled out with the whole Lasers BS.







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Re: OT - Raptors Global Ambassador vs Kendrick 

Post#376 » by WaltFrazier » Thu May 9, 2024 2:37 pm

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Re: OT - Raptors Global Ambassador vs Kendrick 

Post#377 » by YogurtProducer » Sat May 11, 2024 1:31 pm

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Re: OT - Raptors Global Ambassador vs Kendrick 

Post#379 » by seanbig » Sat May 11, 2024 11:52 pm

Flame me but this in my opinion is what’s wrong with hip hop culture

Young men see Kendrick and think it’s cool to hate on others

Let’s glamorize black on black feuds/crime whatever

Asians on the other hand- there is evough pie so let’s eat together

Imo Kendrick’s a bit of a jerk no hate just facts
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Re: OT - Raptors Global Ambassador vs Kendrick 

Post#380 » by nestea » Sun May 12, 2024 1:16 am

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