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Very early draft target at #19

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 3:25 am
by SpezNc
It’s still early and we don’t know yet if our pick will convey or not. The lottery is still a couple weeks away.

Obviously our draft strategy will be heavily affected should the pick convey or not.

In the meantime let’s see who is our preliminary draft target at #19?

See below a link to check the consensus ranking
https://www.rookiescale.com/2024-consensus-board/

To fill out the choices in the polls it’s was hard but I decided to put #19 to #27 as per Rookie Scale consensus ranking. (Link above)

Obviously it’s unlikely that on draft day that pick 1 to 18 are exactly the ones in the current consensus. But for the polls choices, I assumed it was.

Re: Very early draft target at #19

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 3:27 am
by Thaddy
Kyshawn George is a better and younger Delano Banton. No doubt he fits the typical prototype we look for. I don't think he'll be available at this pick but Furphy would be a good second option.

Re: Very early draft target at #19

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 3:36 am
by SpezNc
Thaddy wrote:Kyshawn George is a better and younger Delano Banton. No doubt he fits the typical prototype we look for. I don't think he'll be available at this pick but Furphy would be a good second option.



Indeed he has a profile that easily could go sooner than current ranking. But should he be drafted prior to #19 this could mean that one of current top18 might have dropped to #19.

I don’t dislike Kyshawn George as legit option for #19 although I would need to gather more information .

Re: Very early draft target at #19

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 3:42 am
by Thaddy
SpezNc wrote:
Thaddy wrote:Kyshawn George is a better and younger Delano Banton. No doubt he fits the typical prototype we look for. I don't think he'll be available at this pick but Furphy would be a good second option.



Indeed he has a profile that easily could go sooner than current ranking. But he be drafted prior #19 this could mean that one of current top18 might have dropped to #19.

I don’t dislike that Kyshawn George option although I would need to gather more information .

He was a 6'4 point guard before getting a growth spurt and getting to 6'9. He's a great shooter and knows how to move the ball. Downside is he has 0 explosiveness.

Re: Very early draft target at #19

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 3:55 am
by DreamTeam09
SpezNc wrote:It’s still early and we don’t know yet if our pick will convey or not. The lottery is still a couple weeks away.

Obviously our draft strategy will be heavily affected should the pick convey or not.

In the meantime let’s see who is our preliminary draft target at #19?

See below a link to check the consensus ranking
https://www.rookiescale.com/2024-consensus-board/

To fill out the choices in the polls it’s was hard but I decided to put #19 to #27 as per Rookie Scale consensus ranking. (Link above)

Obviously it’s unlikely that on draft day that pick 1 to 18 are exactly the ones in the current consensus. But for the polls choices, I assumed it was.


Replace Klintman with Devon Carter

Re: Very early draft target at #19

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 4:02 am
by S.W.A.N
Smith, but I don't hate anyone on that list.

Re: Very early draft target at #19

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 7:28 am
by Thaddy
S.W.A.N wrote:Smith, but I don't hate anyone on that list.

I don't buy Olynyk being a productive 5. He seems like he'd be a lot better with a rim protector next to him. That would be tough to fit Smith into. Then there's the Nwora factor. Smith is an inch taller but carries the same weaknesses as Nwora.

Re: Very early draft target at #19

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 11:42 am
by Brinbe
really impossible to predict in such a flat draft like this. especially before the combine hits and these prospects get measured/worked out. there's always gonna be guys who pop and rise up the boards.

not really too excited about most of the consensus guys around our range. devin carter stands out, but i think he'll go before 19.

Re: Very early draft target at #19

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 12:09 pm
by italraptors
enough of this. just take edey at 19 and be done with it, all those guys listed will prob be a bust anyways. at least take a chance on the best college player in the last 2 years. and if hes a bust then so be it. the draft is a crap shoot anyways

Re: Very early draft target at #19

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 12:40 pm
by Aliasego
As boring as it is, it's just too early to decide. Whatever is do at 19 likely depends on what we do with the earlier pick. If we lose it, it's wide open. If we retain, who we draft makes a big difference. If we get a big (Sarr, for example), we aren't likely to be looking big at 19. If we get a backup PG (like Topic), we'll probably want to go big, or wing depth.

Drafting best player available is generally better, but when you have a bunch of similar level prospects it just doesn't work out like that. You also need to be able to feed guys minutes to develop them.

(Also, honestly, I have no clue who will be good or not. I'd be the worst scout ever)

Re: Very early draft target at #19

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 1:38 pm
by ArthurVandelay
Of who is listed:

Tyler Smith
Johnny Furphy


Of who is not:
Jamir Watkins

Re: Very early draft target at #19

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 1:43 pm
by causal_fan
The Raptors are so bereft of talent that I think all picks should be whomever the team thinks is BPA.

Re: Very early draft target at #19

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 1:48 pm
by Raptorfan2012
italraptors wrote:enough of this. just take edey at 19 and be done with it, all those guys listed will prob be a bust anyways. at least take a chance on the best college player in the last 2 years. and if hes a bust then so be it. the draft is a crap shoot anyways


I am not opposed to taking Edey, but I do feel there are potentially better choices ahead of him at 19 (depending on how the draft shakes out). I think I prefer Da Silva, Tyler Smith, Kel'el Ware and George and maybe even Holmes over Edey, but I rather take Edey over guys like Missi, Furphy, McCullar etc.

Re: Very early draft target at #19

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 2:25 pm
by Red_Claw
I see Tristan Da Silva as this years Jaime Jaquez Jr.

Re: Very early draft target at #19

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 2:31 pm
by LoveMyRaps
Heart says Furphy.

Mind says Ware.

Re: Very early draft target at #19

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 2:34 pm
by OakleyDokely
There are a number of guys who could be interesting at 19. Without workouts or measurements though, it's hard to say which ones will rise/drop.

Zach Edey
DaRon Holmes II
Devin Carter
KJ Simpson
Tyler Kolek
Alex Karaban
Yves Missi
Ryan Dunn
Kevin McCullar
Hunter Sallis
Johnny Furphy
Tristan da Silva
Kyshawn George
Mark Sears
Jared McCain

Re: Very early draft target at #19

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 3:11 pm
by Mr Funk
Hopefully we'll come away with a solid backup centre and wing defender with a good wingspan.

Re: Very early draft target at #19

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 4:30 pm
by LBJKB24MJ23
Mr Funk wrote:Hopefully we'll come away with a solid backup centre and wing defender with a good wingspan.


we really need to rebuild the bench for sure.

Re: Very early draft target at #19

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 4:30 pm
by goinrogue
italraptors wrote:enough of this. just take edey at 19 and be done with it, all those guys listed will prob be a bust anyways. at least take a chance on the best college player in the last 2 years. and if hes a bust then so be it. the draft is a crap shoot anyways


Honest question. If he wasn’t from Canada, would you be this adamant about drafting him? It’s cool if the answer is yes, but if the answer is no, then I have issues with that. I know this is considered weak draft but I actually think we could get a really good player at 19. I don’t wanna use it on Edey just because he’s from Canada.

Re: Very early draft target at #19

Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 4:46 pm
by italraptors
goinrogue wrote:
italraptors wrote:enough of this. just take edey at 19 and be done with it, all those guys listed will prob be a bust anyways. at least take a chance on the best college player in the last 2 years. and if hes a bust then so be it. the draft is a crap shoot anyways


Honest question. If he wasn’t from Canada, would you be this adamant about drafting him? It’s cool if the answer is yes, but if the answer is no, then I have issues with that. I know this is considered weak draft but I actually think we could get a really good player at 19. I don’t wanna use it on Edey just because he’s from Canada.


actually, i always hate the narrative of getting players just cause they're canadian. i think its so dumb. the reason why i believe in edey is because of a few things, first hes a 2 time player of the year in college, hes a 7'4 beast, hes shown he can improve on his weaknesses and the biggest thing is you can see when you hear him talk, hes got mamba blood in him, his heart is huge.
you can be the most athletic man to ever play basketball but if your heart is weak you aint gonna win ****.