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Old Man Game wrote:Dieng just looks miles away to me. Watching him last year it felt like he didn't even know what he was supposed to be in the NBA.
I love the physical tools and he's got some feel for the game so I'm not writing him off but I found year one concerning.
Mr Thunder Nick wrote:Summer isn't done. We have trade value in Micic, Mann and Waters (Poku?) and a lot of picks. Perhaps Sam has already a plan to get a bigger player in the near future. Trust in Presti, he is a very good navigator.
ThunderBolt wrote:Mr Thunder Nick wrote:Summer isn't done. We have trade value in Micic, Mann and Waters (Poku?) and a lot of picks. Perhaps Sam has already a plan to get a bigger player in the near future. Trust in Presti, he is a very good navigator.
I'd be surprised and even a bit angry if Sam doesn't make some moves to shore up the front line. I really think Sam's approach of constantly tempering fans expectations for the team hasn't been good for attendance and the overall enthusiasm for the casual fan base.
Devilanche wrote:ThunderBolt wrote:Mr Thunder Nick wrote:Summer isn't done. We have trade value in Micic, Mann and Waters (Poku?) and a lot of picks. Perhaps Sam has already a plan to get a bigger player in the near future. Trust in Presti, he is a very good navigator.
I'd be surprised and even a bit angry if Sam doesn't make some moves to shore up the front line. I really think Sam's approach of constantly tempering fans expectations for the team hasn't been good for attendance and the overall enthusiasm for the casual fan base.
I think we are going as is with our front court .
I don’t even see us using our MLE on someone like say Naz Reid or someone of that range.
If we are performing at trade deadline and none of Poku/Dieng/anyone bigger than 6’8” grab that other big spot , we might look to make a trade but even then slow and steady steps .
ThunderBolt wrote:Devilanche wrote:ThunderBolt wrote:I'd be surprised and even a bit angry if Sam doesn't make some moves to shore up the front line. I really think Sam's approach of constantly tempering fans expectations for the team hasn't been good for attendance and the overall enthusiasm for the casual fan base.
I think we are going as is with our front court .
I don’t even see us using our MLE on someone like say Naz Reid or someone of that range.
If we are performing at trade deadline and none of Poku/Dieng/anyone bigger than 6’8” grab that other big spot , we might look to make a trade but even then slow and steady steps .
You might be right but I think that could be a mistake. I'm not suggesting we push in all of our chips but I think it's wise to start to shift the philosophy to making moves that build around our core guys. It's a fine line between being patient and staying in development mode too long.
Roster construction is going to be difficult with the new CBA so there is value in continuing to develop our own guys. I think Shai is different than a lot of stars in ways that benefits a small market franchise. However I'm not going to assume he has endless patience. I think there is a way to pursue both paths at the same time.
ThunderBolt wrote:Devilanche wrote:ThunderBolt wrote:I'd be surprised and even a bit angry if Sam doesn't make some moves to shore up the front line. I really think Sam's approach of constantly tempering fans expectations for the team hasn't been good for attendance and the overall enthusiasm for the casual fan base.
I think we are going as is with our front court .
I don’t even see us using our MLE on someone like say Naz Reid or someone of that range.
If we are performing at trade deadline and none of Poku/Dieng/anyone bigger than 6’8” grab that other big spot , we might look to make a trade but even then slow and steady steps .
You might be right but I think that could be a mistake. I'm not suggesting we push in all of our chips but I think it's wise to start to shift the philosophy to making moves that build around our core guys. It's a fine line between being patient and staying in development mode too long.
Roster construction is going to be difficult with the new CBA so there is value in continuing to develop our own guys. I think Shai is different than a lot of stars in ways that benefits a small market franchise. However I'm not going to assume he has endless patience. I think there is a way to pursue both paths at the same time.
mr570 wrote:
Suppose he could also be talking about moving up in the second/trading back in to the first. I'm sure there was a little bit of an assumption that either was possible.
Devilanche wrote:mr570 wrote:
Suppose he could also be talking about moving up in the second/trading back in to the first. I'm sure there was a little bit of an assumption that either was possible.
Second goal was to get spacing - Bertran covers that . Hopefully well given it’s probably contract year for him.
Third goal is to sign someone in free agency.
Old Man Game wrote:Dieng just looks miles away to me. Watching him last year it felt like he didn't even know what he was supposed to be in the NBA.
I love the physical tools and he's got some feel for the game so I'm not writing him off but I found year one concerning.
Dadouv47 wrote:Devilanche wrote:mr570 wrote:Suppose he could also be talking about moving up in the second/trading back in to the first. I'm sure there was a little bit of an assumption that either was possible.
Second goal was to get spacing - Bertran covers that . Hopefully well given it’s probably contract year for him.
Third goal is to sign someone in free agency.
We can't play Bertans more than 60 or so games or he gets +12 millions guaranteed on his 2024-2025 contract...so he's basically a guy we won't play. You can't even consider rehabing his trade value because no team wants to deal with his contract the year after if he plays a lot. Gotta sit him on the bench if u want to find a trade partner.
Zagor wrote:Kizz Fastfists wrote:Presti has never understood building a complete team. He gets a few great pieces and then fails to put the rest of the team in place. He didn't need to do much this off-season. He made the trade up he needed to make to get Lively, which is the defensive anchor the team needs, and let Chet play PF because he isn't a center. Then he could've moved Dort, with picks, for another solid big, like John Collins, and then you have Chet as your 6th man in his rookie season. They had enough 1-3 with SGA, Giddy, Jalen Williams, Mann, Joe, Wiggins, etc.
Presti has a team overloaded at 1-3 with nothing you can depend on as quality play at 4/5 unless you are going to play extremely undersized which is fine if you just want to be a fringe playoff team that is "exciting and scrappy", but it is absolute garbage if your goal is winning a championship.
On the contrary, Chet is center. Real center.
Whatever success this team will have, it will be with him playing center position.
Starting lineup is undersized, yes. But if Dieng improves by his third season, situation is drastically different.
Roster building is in middle phase. There is still a lot of time to add bigger bodies.
getrichordie wrote:Cason is ready to replace Dort today. Expect Dort to either be asked to come off the bench or traded at the next deadline, if not before.