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Colbinii wrote:

Laimbeer wrote:

flaco wrote:Hate myself already. Was planning to draft Dwight + Lewis in round 2 as well.

Can't be too picky in pairs drafts. At least Kyrie is a proven fit with LeBron. Really wanted Billups in round 2, but it was a pipe dream.

Kyrie is a great later round selection with LeBron in this game. I thought Chauncey and a bench player in round two was a major reach. Can't see it with point being pretty deep.

It was, I missed my pick and gave up since I worked and then went to see Dune 2.

I also realize every time I play these games I don't care for them anymore since it's the same exact voters every game with the same exact rationale for voting in every single match-up with the same exact player pool of 150 players with each game just selecting to use 80 of those 150 players and making teams with that permutation of exact players we see every game.

Typically by my 1st round pick I am asking myself "Why am I doing this again?" and then miraculously finding the effort to walk towards the light at the end of the tunnel and finish the draft.

I honestly can't remember a time someone picked a player or players and I thought "Wow". Every single draft pick is "Yup, makes sense" or it's more accurately "5 of my Top 6 players went Top 5" or "28 of my Top 30 players went in the first 3 rounds". Really exciting stuff.

Colbinii wrote:

Laimbeer wrote:

flaco wrote:Hate myself already. Was planning to draft Dwight + Lewis in round 2 as well.

Can't be too picky in pairs drafts. At least Kyrie is a proven fit with LeBron. Really wanted Billups in round 2, but it was a pipe dream.

Kyrie is a great later round selection with LeBron in this game. I thought Chauncey and a bench player in round two was a major reach. Can't see it with point being pretty deep.

It was, I missed my pick and gave up since I worked and then went to see Dune 2.

I also realize every time I play these games I don't care for them anymore since it's the same exact voters every game with the same exact rationale for voting in every single match-up with the same exact player pool of 150 players with each game just selecting to use 80 of those 150 players and making teams with that permutation of exact players we see every game.

Typically by my 1st round pick I am asking myself "Why am I doing this again?" and then miraculously finding the effort to walk towards the light at the end of the tunnel and finish the draft.

I honestly can't remember a time someone picked a player or players and I thought "Wow". Every single draft pick is "Yup, makes sense" or it's more accurately "5 of my Top 6 players went Top 5" or "28 of my Top 30 players went in the first 3 rounds". Really exciting stuff.

Snakebites wrote:

Colbinii wrote:

Laimbeer wrote:
Kyrie is a great later round selection with LeBron in this game. I thought Chauncey and a bench player in round two was a major reach. Can't see it with point being pretty deep.

It was, I missed my pick and gave up since I worked and then went to see Dune 2.

I also realize every time I play these games I don't care for them anymore since it's the same exact voters every game with the same exact rationale for voting in every single match-up with the same exact player pool of 150 players with each game just selecting to use 80 of those 150 players and making teams with that permutation of exact players we see every game.

Typically by my 1st round pick I am asking myself "Why am I doing this again?" and then miraculously finding the effort to walk towards the light at the end of the tunnel and finish the draft.

I honestly can't remember a time someone picked a player or players and I thought "Wow". Every single draft pick is "Yup, makes sense" or it's more accurately "5 of my Top 6 players went Top 5" or "28 of my Top 30 players went in the first 3 rounds". Really exciting stuff.

We’d defintely benefit from new players with different ideas about what makes a good team.

I still enjoy them but there is sometimes a somewhat stale feel to them. Not because the games themselves are stale but because we’ve settled into an established meta for how these games go.

uberhikari wrote:I'm pretty sure what happened to flaco is what happened to me in another pairs draft. All the picks makes you think you've reached the round 3/4 turnaround but it's still round 2 and you pick last again in round 3.

flaco wrote:

uberhikari wrote:I'm pretty sure what happened to flaco is what happened to me in another pairs draft. All the picks makes you think you've reached the round 3/4 turnaround but it's still round 2 and you pick last again in round 3.

Missed out on all my targets, so I figured I'd secure my favorite role players instead.

My initial thoughts were either Kyrie+Parish or Lowry+Bosh/Doug Christie. I then realized there was no rush to grab any of these guys. I could still select them with my next picks. For instance, Lowry, Bosh and Gilmore ended up being undrafted. I was also targeting Porzingis, but I couldn't find a serviceable second pick from the Wizards apart from old Wes Unseld for around 7 FGA. That's a steep price to pay for a backup Center.

Ness has an amazing team. Hands down the best team in the draft imo.

parsnips33 wrote:

flaco wrote:

uberhikari wrote:I'm pretty sure what happened to flaco is what happened to me in another pairs draft. All the picks makes you think you've reached the round 3/4 turnaround but it's still round 2 and you pick last again in round 3.

Missed out on all my targets, so I figured I'd secure my favorite role players instead.

My initial thoughts were either Kyrie+Parish or Lowry+Bosh/Doug Christie. I then realized there was no rush to grab any of these guys. I could still select them with my next picks. For instance, Lowry, Bosh and Gilmore ended up being undrafted. I was also targeting Porzingis, but I couldn't find a serviceable second pick from the Wizards apart from old Wes Unseld for around 7 FGA. That's a steep price to pay for a backup Center.

Ness has an amazing team. Hands down the best team in the draft imo.

I had Gilbert Arenas/Porzingis in my head for half a second before I wised up

flaco wrote:Another duo I considered was Middleton+Sikma. Not overly familiar with Sikma's game tbh. Wonder how voters would feel about his defensive game. Judging primarily from his B/R page, he seems like a soft-ish big with T-Rex arms who's effective only in a drop scheme(?). Let's say a rich man's Olynyk(?). His offense should have translated in the modern era since he was a reliable shooter. He even led the league in FT% in 1988.

Snakebites wrote:

flaco wrote:Another duo I considered was Middleton+Sikma. Not overly familiar with Sikma's game tbh. Wonder how voters would feel about his defensive game. Judging primarily from his B/R page, he seems like a soft-ish big with T-Rex arms who's effective only in a drop scheme(?). Let's say a rich man's Olynyk(?). His offense should have translated in the modern era since he was a reliable shooter. He even led the league in FT% in 1988.

I can’t imagine just looking at him that he was a guy who could switch on defense.

Based on stats and general reputation in guessing he was a pretty good interior defender. Sonic’s version seemed able to hold his own.

Are we going to do this for the west?

flaco wrote:

Snakebites wrote:

flaco wrote:Another duo I considered was Middleton+Sikma. Not overly familiar with Sikma's game tbh. Wonder how voters would feel about his defensive game. Judging primarily from his B/R page, he seems like a soft-ish big with T-Rex arms who's effective only in a drop scheme(?). Let's say a rich man's Olynyk(?). His offense should have translated in the modern era since he was a reliable shooter. He even led the league in FT% in 1988.

I can’t imagine just looking at him that he was a guy who could switch on defense.

Based on stats and general reputation in guessing he was a pretty good interior defender. Sonic’s version seemed able to hold his own.

Are we going to do this for the west?

I guess I'll add him on my list for future games. The starting-calibre stretch Center pool is surprisingly thin. Wemby, Chet and low-cost Zinger should spice things up once the 2024 season becomes available.

Snakebites wrote:

flaco wrote:

Snakebites wrote:I can’t imagine just looking at him that he was a guy who could switch on defense.

Based on stats and general reputation in guessing he was a pretty good interior defender. Sonic’s version seemed able to hold his own.

Are we going to do this for the west?

I guess I'll add him on my list for future games. The starting-calibre stretch Center pool is surprisingly thin. Wemby, Chet and low-cost Zinger should spice things up once the 2024 season becomes available.

In most games there are enough centers.

This one was tougher without Gasol and with pairs making it harder to use certain guys.

Larry_Russell wrote:I know it wont get love, but I do like having a team with some attacking power. I still feel strongly that an inside out team beats an outside in team. But I get that is archaic thinking in 2024

flaco wrote:

Snakebites wrote:

flaco wrote:I guess I'll add him on my list for future games. The starting-calibre stretch Center pool is surprisingly thin. Wemby, Chet and low-cost Zinger should spice things up once the 2024 season becomes available.

In most games there are enough centers.

This one was tougher without Gasol and with pairs making it harder to use certain guys.

Was just looking at Wemby's B/R page. He's averaging a BLK% of 10.0! Ranks 4th highest throughout NBA/ABA history behind only 3 seasons of Manute Ball! I know he's only a rookie, but I expect him to be very popular in next season's games.

Snakebites wrote:

flaco wrote:

Snakebites wrote:I can’t imagine just looking at him that he was a guy who could switch on defense.

Based on stats and general reputation in guessing he was a pretty good interior defender. Sonic’s version seemed able to hold his own.

Are we going to do this for the west?

I guess I'll add him on my list for future games. The starting-calibre stretch Center pool is surprisingly thin. Wemby, Chet and low-cost Zinger should spice things up once the 2024 season becomes available.

In most games there are enough centers.

This one was tougher without Gasol and with pairs making it harder to use certain guys.

durantbird wrote:

Snakebites wrote:

flaco wrote:I guess I'll add him on my list for future games. The starting-calibre stretch Center pool is surprisingly thin. Wemby, Chet and low-cost Zinger should spice things up once the 2024 season becomes available.

In most games there are enough centers.

This one was tougher without Gasol and with pairs making it harder to use certain guys.

Gasol was available in his Raptors season in 20'. Though he suffered from relative lack of early Raptors guys, like Lowry. The only pre 2010 Raptor was Peterson. I heavily considered Lowry and Doug Christie with my last pick - Raptors Christie is overlooked though he is pretty useful and his mixed Knicks Raptors season is also cheap.