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Dirk wrote:

KembaWalker wrote:Funniest thing is Mavs Reddit is trying to sell themselves on PJ Washington of all people as a lockdown wing/big defender now that he’s doing the normal PJ disappearing act on offense


https://www.reddit.com/r/Mavericks/comments/1ar677m/pjail_washington/

I liked and vouched for PJs value despite their weird vitriolic hatred toward Grant and our FO but they are really setting themselves up for extreme disappointment

PJail

Don't you feel you're too invested on PJ Washington and how Mavs fans feel?

"Disappearing act on offense" when he is playing playing with Luka/Kyrie? All he needs to start doing is hitting his 3 pointers. He's not expected to do very much.

His 3 point shot looks iffy and if he were to suck all year, that would be quite terrible. But he's fluid attacking the basket, has made a couple of nice passes. He's obviously way more athletic than Williams and has been active on defense.

You don't seem to appreciate how much of an abomination Grant Williams was in Dallas. That is why you see the reactions... most fans just couldn't stand watching Williams. He couldn't hit a shot, fat, couldn't dribble, couldn't even catch a ball sometimes. It was really horrible.

I for one would still not have overrated and trade Williams is desperation and take a risk (the very lightly protected pick). So I wouldn't have made the trade. The Hornets made a good trade by default. I am just trying to give you the context as to why Mavs fans will feel good... simply because they do not have Williams on the team. Despite PJ Washington missing his 3 pointers... he's still been better for the Mavericks than Grant Williams was for the Mavericks --- this is not "copium". You would know if you had watching Grant Williams play in dallas.

The Grant Williams you saw for 3 games is obviously not the player that he was in Dallas for months. And there's no one to blame --- he also had a super hot start with the Mavs. I guess after a certain point with his struggles, he never was able to overcome it and confidence was lost, both by him and the franchise itself.

He surely can't be as bad as he was with the Mavs for an extended time, but I do figure that at certain points in the season, you will get a glimpse as to why the Mavs fans loathed him so much. For your sake, let's just hope it's just a game here and there.. and not weeks on top of weeks, which was what happened with the Mavs.

Dirk wrote:

KembaWalker wrote:Funniest thing is Mavs Reddit is trying to sell themselves on PJ Washington of all people as a lockdown wing/big defender now that he’s doing the normal PJ disappearing act on offense


https://www.reddit.com/r/Mavericks/comments/1ar677m/pjail_washington/

I liked and vouched for PJs value despite their weird vitriolic hatred toward Grant and our FO but they are really setting themselves up for extreme disappointment

PJail

Don't you feel you're too invested on PJ Washington and how Mavs fans feel?

"Disappearing act on offense" when he is playing playing with Luka/Kyrie? All he needs to start doing is hitting his 3 pointers. He's not expected to do very much.

His 3 point shot looks iffy and if he were to suck all year, that would be quite terrible. But he's fluid attacking the basket, has made a couple of nice passes. He's obviously way more athletic than Williams and has been active on defense.

You don't seem to appreciate how much of an abomination Grant Williams was in Dallas. That is why you see the reactions... most fans just couldn't stand watching Williams. He couldn't hit a shot, fat, couldn't dribble, couldn't even catch a ball sometimes. It was really horrible.

I for one would still not have overrated and trade Williams is desperation and take a risk (the very lightly protected pick). So I wouldn't have made the trade. The Hornets made a good trade by default. I am just trying to give you the context as to why Mavs fans will feel good... simply because they do not have Williams on the team. Despite PJ Washington missing his 3 pointers... he's still been better for the Mavericks than Grant Williams was for the Mavericks --- this is not "copium". You would know if you had watching Grant Williams play in dallas.

The Grant Williams you saw for 3 games is obviously not the player that he was in Dallas for months. And there's no one to blame --- he also had a super hot start with the Mavs. I guess after a certain point with his struggles, he never was able to overcome it and confidence was lost, both by him and the franchise itself.

He surely can't be as bad as he was with the Mavs for an extended time, but I do figure that at certain points in the season, you will get a glimpse as to why the Mavs fans loathed him so much. For your sake, let's just hope it's just a game here and there.. and not weeks on top of weeks, which was what happened with the Mavs.

KembaWalker wrote:

Dirk wrote:

KembaWalker wrote:Funniest thing is Mavs Reddit is trying to sell themselves on PJ Washington of all people as a lockdown wing/big defender now that he’s doing the normal PJ disappearing act on offense


https://www.reddit.com/r/Mavericks/comments/1ar677m/pjail_washington/

I liked and vouched for PJs value despite their weird vitriolic hatred toward Grant and our FO but they are really setting themselves up for extreme disappointment

PJail

Don't you feel you're too invested on PJ Washington and how Mavs fans feel?

"Disappearing act on offense" when he is playing playing with Luka/Kyrie? All he needs to start doing is hitting his 3 pointers. He's not expected to do very much.

His 3 point shot looks iffy and if he were to suck all year, that would be quite terrible. But he's fluid attacking the basket, has made a couple of nice passes. He's obviously way more athletic than Williams and has been active on defense.

You don't seem to appreciate how much of an abomination Grant Williams was in Dallas. That is why you see the reactions... most fans just couldn't stand watching Williams. He couldn't hit a shot, fat, couldn't dribble, couldn't even catch a ball sometimes. It was really horrible.

I for one would still not have overrated and trade Williams is desperation and take a risk (the very lightly protected pick). So I wouldn't have made the trade. The Hornets made a good trade by default. I am just trying to give you the context as to why Mavs fans will feel good... simply because they do not have Williams on the team. Despite PJ Washington missing his 3 pointers... he's still been better for the Mavericks than Grant Williams was for the Mavericks --- this is not "copium". You would know if you had watching Grant Williams play in dallas.

The Grant Williams you saw for 3 games is obviously not the player that he was in Dallas for months. And there's no one to blame --- he also had a super hot start with the Mavs. I guess after a certain point with his struggles, he never was able to overcome it and confidence was lost, both by him and the franchise itself.

He surely can't be as bad as he was with the Mavs for an extended time, but I do figure that at certain points in the season, you will get a glimpse as to why the Mavs fans loathed him so much. For your sake, let's just hope it's just a game here and there.. and not weeks on top of weeks, which was what happened with the Mavs.

For a fat bricklayer his scoring efficiency was still better for Dallas than PJs ever had in a season in his career outside of one, for a butterfingers that can’t catch a ball he averaged fewer TOs per 36 than PJ ever has. I dunno man, it seems vitriolic, more like you guys expected some hidden star because he was a good role player for Boston and they’re mad he’s still just a good role player now.

Liver_Pooty wrote:

Dirk wrote:

KembaWalker wrote:Funniest thing is Mavs Reddit is trying to sell themselves on PJ Washington of all people as a lockdown wing/big defender now that he’s doing the normal PJ disappearing act on offense


https://www.reddit.com/r/Mavericks/comments/1ar677m/pjail_washington/

I liked and vouched for PJs value despite their weird vitriolic hatred toward Grant and our FO but they are really setting themselves up for extreme disappointment

PJail

Don't you feel you're too invested on PJ Washington and how Mavs fans feel?

"Disappearing act on offense" when he is playing playing with Luka/Kyrie? All he needs to start doing is hitting his 3 pointers. He's not expected to do very much.

His 3 point shot looks iffy and if he were to suck all year, that would be quite terrible. But he's fluid attacking the basket, has made a couple of nice passes. He's obviously way more athletic than Williams and has been active on defense.

You don't seem to appreciate how much of an abomination Grant Williams was in Dallas. That is why you see the reactions... most fans just couldn't stand watching Williams. He couldn't hit a shot, fat, couldn't dribble, couldn't even catch a ball sometimes. It was really horrible.

I for one would still not have overrated and trade Williams is desperation and take a risk (the very lightly protected pick). So I wouldn't have made the trade. The Hornets made a good trade by default. I am just trying to give you the context as to why Mavs fans will feel good... simply because they do not have Williams on the team. Despite PJ Washington missing his 3 pointers... he's still been better for the Mavericks than Grant Williams was for the Mavericks --- this is not "copium". You would know if you had watching Grant Williams play in dallas.

The Grant Williams you saw for 3 games is obviously not the player that he was in Dallas for months. And there's no one to blame --- he also had a super hot start with the Mavs. I guess after a certain point with his struggles, he never was able to overcome it and confidence was lost, both by him and the franchise itself.

He surely can't be as bad as he was with the Mavs for an extended time, but I do figure that at certain points in the season, you will get a glimpse as to why the Mavs fans loathed him so much. For your sake, let's just hope it's just a game here and there.. and not weeks on top of weeks, which was what happened with the Mavs.

I don't care about the swap of players as much as I do the pick to be honest.

Dirk wrote:
Don't you feel you're too invested on PJ Washington and how Mavs fans feel?

JMAC3 wrote:

Dirk wrote:
Don't you feel you're too invested on PJ Washington and how Mavs fans feel?

A bit ironic that you saying this but at the same time actively on another board looking at a Grant Williams thread?

Dirk wrote:

KembaWalker wrote:Funniest thing is Mavs Reddit is trying to sell themselves on PJ Washington of all people as a lockdown wing/big defender now that he’s doing the normal PJ disappearing act on offense


https://www.reddit.com/r/Mavericks/comments/1ar677m/pjail_washington/

I liked and vouched for PJs value despite their weird vitriolic hatred toward Grant and our FO but they are really setting themselves up for extreme disappointment

PJail

Don't you feel you're too invested on PJ Washington and how Mavs fans feel?

SWedd523 wrote:

Dirk wrote:

KembaWalker wrote:Funniest thing is Mavs Reddit is trying to sell themselves on PJ Washington of all people as a lockdown wing/big defender now that he’s doing the normal PJ disappearing act on offense


https://www.reddit.com/r/Mavericks/comments/1ar677m/pjail_washington/

I liked and vouched for PJs value despite their weird vitriolic hatred toward Grant and our FO but they are really setting themselves up for extreme disappointment

PJail

Don't you feel you're too invested on PJ Washington and how Mavs fans feel?

So much so that he's lurking on an opposing fanbase's forum and injecting himself into the discussion on the trade




...Wait a minute

JMAC3 wrote:

Diop wrote:Their board have been pretty happy with Pj, especially his defense, during their win streak. it’s sort of a win/win trade.

Apart from that sweet draft pick

Luka and Kyrie shot 42 times, the other 3 starters each shot like 5 times. I said it when we got Grant, it is not a system for every player to find success. PJ is probably not loving the limited shot attempts thus far.

JMAC3 wrote:Prior to trade in Dallas Grant was getting 19 passes thrown to him a game, in Charlotte he is at 29 passes received.
PJ prior to trade was getting 29 passes in charlotte, now at 19 in Dallas.

So yeah the roles are different, some players are good at playing that brand of waiting in the corner, other guys need to be moving and being more active.

Anyone who has ever played pickup basketball knows if you aren't getting the ball on offense, your probably less active on defense by default.

Dirk wrote:

SWedd523 wrote:

Dirk wrote:
Don't you feel you're too invested on PJ Washington and how Mavs fans feel?

So much so that he's lurking on an opposing fanbase's forum and injecting himself into the discussion on the trade




...Wait a minute

I exchanged posts directly with KembaW and already replied to another user that wrote exactly the same thing you just did. Maybe you missed it or you really think that's a witty comment.

Lurking on Realgm?

It takes two clicks to see team boards. Nothing wrong with that. It's one of the best features.

I'll see myself out now.