Fake Trade Thread #5

Post #1 » by **JDR720** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 9:47 am

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Post #2 » by **Diop** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 2:59 pm

Kawhi wants a point guard, how about a point centre?!

Post #3 » by **Diop** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 3:01 pm

Clippers could actually do with a backup centre

Post #4 » by **fatlever** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 3:39 pm

Trades suggested in Duncd on pod

Kelly to LA for Bev and 2RP.
Mason and McD to Nets for Cam, Sharpe, 2RP.

both are underwhelming. I guess yes to Kelly trade, no to Nets trade.

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Post #5 » by **JDR720** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 3:49 pm

Gonna give Plum and McD away for a couple 3rd/4th stringers.

MPM · Post #6 » by **MPM** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 3:50 pm

fatlever wrote:Trades suggested in Duncd on pod

Kelly to LA for Bev and 2RP.
Mason and McD to Nets for Cam, Sharpe, 2RP.

both are underwhelming. I guess yes to Kelly trade, no to Nets trade.

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Seriously - I'm self aware enough to feel my homer bias, but every hypo trade scenario I've seen seems to slant against the hornets. Mason and McD - two pieces, one young and with upside, that would contribute for the Nets - for Thomas (another woefully undersized 2 that reeks bust), Sharpe (basically nobody) and late second? Right. I'd rather let them expire.

Post #7 » by **JDR720** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 3:54 pm

I wouldn't do the LA trade either. Bev would just be a buyout candidate (and don't want his crazy on the team either). Oubre is worth 2 2nd's at least.

In other news:
https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/270182/Pacers-Spurs-Raptors-Jazz-Interested-in-Jalen-McDaniels

Pacers, Spurs, Raps and Jazz want McD.

Post #8 » by **JDR720** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 3:58 pm

What would be considered a good deadline?

MPM · Post #9 » by **MPM** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 4:24 pm

JDR720 wrote:What would be considered a good deadline?

Best case for me – we jettison Terry, Oubre, and Mason. Rozier nets a 1st and expiring, Mason a late first + salary match garbage, Oubre a useful role player and seconds. The likelihood of moving 3 vets though? below low.

Gut says Rozier makes it through the deadline, Mason is moved for meh + seconds, Oubre is moved for meh + seconds.

This all said - it would be zero shock if we were to do nothing.

JMAC3 · Post #10 » by **JMAC3** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 4:25 pm

JDR720 wrote:I wouldn't do the LA trade either. Bev would just be a buyout candidate (and don't want his crazy on the team either). Oubre is worth 2 2nd's at least.

In other news:
https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/270182/Pacers-Spurs-Raptors-Jazz-Interested-in-Jalen-McDaniels

Pacers, Spurs, Raps and Jazz want McD.

Pacers own 3 firsts in this draft.
Jazz own 3 firsts in this draft.
Spurs have excess firsts in coming years.

SWedd523 · Post #11 » by **SWedd523** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 4:26 pm

both of those trades reek of "big market poaches players from small market"

JMAC3 · Post #12 » by **JMAC3** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 4:28 pm

JDR720 wrote:What would be considered a good deadline?

I am not asking for much.

We make at least 1 trade.
We get at least 1 future first
We move Plumlee for something useful.

Rays Pompadour · Post #13 » by **Rays Pompadour** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 4:33 pm

MPM wrote:
JDR720 wrote:What would be considered a good deadline?

Best case for me – we jettison Terry, Oubre, and Mason. Rozier nets a 1st and expiring, Mason a late first + salary match garbage, Oubre a useful role player and seconds.

But gut says Rozier makes it through the deadline, Mason is moved for meh + seconds, Oubre is moved for meh + seconds.

This all said - it would be zero shock if we were to do nothing.

I'm expecting a Harrell-level move...maybe. But like you said, no one will be surprised if the Hornets stand pat and do nothing.

Liver_Pooty · Post #14 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 4:37 pm

I'd rather do nothing then give away valuable players/assets for 2nd rounders in 2038 which is what opposing fans seem to want to do.

JMAC3 · Post #15 » by **JMAC3** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 5:10 pm

Bouknight and Mcdaniels to Pacers for Duarte and Boston first

Feel like that is decent

MPM · Post #16 » by **MPM** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 5:33 pm

JMAC3 wrote:Bouknight and Mcdaniels to Pacers for Duarte and Boston first

Feel like that is decent

In a heartbeat + feels fair for both sides.

Post #17 » by **fatlever** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 7:49 pm

We do nothing. We keep both Kelly and Mason plus all of our vets and continue playing them 30 plus minutes a game for the rest of the season while we go .500.

Mitch and Clifford talk about how they really thought the team could make a run for the play in spot now that everyone is healthy.

We resign at least one of them to a long-term contract in july.

JMAC3 · Post #18 » by **JMAC3** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 8:09 pm

fatlever wrote:We do nothing. We keep both Kelly and Mason plus all of our vets and continue playing them 30 plus minutes a game for the rest of the season while we go .500.

Mitch and Clifford talk about how they really thought the team could make a run for the play in spot now that everyone is healthy.

We resign at least one of them to a long-term contract in july.

Yeah this would be madness. However, I do like the idea of resigning Oubre to a deal if we end up moving Rozier.

JMAC3 · Post #19 » by **JMAC3** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 8:11 pm

I also think Mitch did a nice job of getting Harrell last year at the deadline.

I am glad he didn't give up the crazy asking prices for Poeltl or Turner.
2 firsts plus Kai was what they wanted.

bravor · Post #20 » by **bravor** » Mon Jan 30, 2023 8:18 pm

Dont want to insist, but Petrusev if he's made available, would be a very nice scoring big for this team (way more reliable than whatever K. Jones can become). He started slow in Euroleague, but he's made a real impact since his beginnings.

Not sure if the 76rs would trade him for 'nothing' (knowing he would be expensive here, i doubt he crosses the atlantic for less than something around 8M/y)

He's clearly better than Sengun (no matter how you feel about it).

As for the deadline, i hope Rozier is gone in one week for sure. The guy is gonna keep pushing no matter what because of his contract (and the incentives he has on it).
otoh i want them to keep Hayward, as i am pretty sure his expiring could bring a nice return next year (in a year without guys like Victor and Scott to get drafted).
Hope Plumlee is gone as well, since he's not part of any future for this team.