Can someone explain why Brunson is so good?
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KnicksGadfly wrote:tsherkin wrote:DaGawd wrote:knicks hate maybe? cause there have been plenty of dominant small players before
Yeah, it's a weird take. His numbers in the playoffs aren't sexy, aside from the volume.
He's scoring 35.6 ppg, but he's shooting a slashline of 45.7% FG / 32.1% 3P / 80.7% FT and 50.3% 2FG. In the RS, he was posting 47.9 / 40.1 / 84.7 / 51.6.
If anything, he's due for a few more big games from 3 like game 2 vs. Indiana just was. Like, he isn't really murdering it at a level better than he was doing in the RS, but he's taking a half dozen more FGA/g, so his volume is up. He is getting more of a whistle, but he's at .379, which is very, very far from egregious. Sure, of course, shooting well on 27+ FGA/g is tough, and he's doing a lot of it from 3-16 feet. But he's actually shooting worse from 10-16 and only 1.5% better from 3-10 than he was in the RS. So it's not like we're seeing crazy stuff from him in terms of finishing.
It'll be tough on him to log 42.4 mpg (around +7 mpg compared to the RS) with that increased volume over a long time. That's sort of a given. We sure aren't going to see that from him in an RS. But he's a danger to do it for the rest of the series because he's a good shooter with a strong off-the-dribble game who knows how to use screens, right? He's not doing too much differently other than using more possessions and playing more minutes. He's at 33.8 FGA100 in the playoffs versus 30.5 FGA100 in the RS, FWIW.
I feel like Philly really game-planned well in G1 and G2. Jalen eventually figured it out, but those first 2 games were extremely horrific for him...he got blocked a few times each game (which rarely ever happens...don't think any Knicks fans were used to that) and Philly is a good defensive team. I feel like he's rebounded well from G3 - G8 in the playoffs though. I also think players face better gameplans too.
The other side of it is that the rest of our team really isn't that great offensively. Randle is gone. Bogdan got hurt. We let go of RJ and Quickley a while ago for OG. We have some solid all around players, but not anyone else who could really take on the 2nd role. I believe this is where Brunson's decline in 3 percentage comes from. If I remember correctly, Julius gave Brunson lots of good 3 point shot opportunities.
Philly sold out to get the ball away from Brunson in games 1 & 2, but Hart & co. forced them to respect our shooters. From there Jalen was able to find his rhythm, but the supporting cast coming up big was what opened things up a little to get him going.
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KnicksGadfly wrote:I feel like Philly really game-planned well in G1 and G2. Jalen eventually figured it out, but those first 2 games were extremely horrific for him
It happens. He's short, he isn't hyper-athletic, there are limitations to his game. But he's smart and skilled and does have some valuable physical attributes, so he sorted it out, which is cool to watch.
The other side of it is that the rest of our team really isn't that great offensively. Randle is gone. Bogdan got hurt. We let go of RJ and Quickley a while ago for OG. We have some solid all around players, but not anyone else who could really take on the 2nd role. I believe this is where Brunson's decline in 3 percentage comes from. If I remember correctly, Julius gave Brunson lots of good 3 point shot opportunities.
Oh yeah, NYK is ravaged right now, so it's pretty clear that this is all just bonus time for the Knicks and Brunson is establishing himself. If they were healthy, they'd be far scarier.
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NO-KG-AI wrote:Joker wrote:SelfishPlayer wrote:
Little known fact that you may appreciate, Kobe's maternal uncle played in the NBA.
maternal side genetics is definitely overlooked. Even Lebron or Jordan's genes can't guarantee anything as far as NBA prospects go.
The Ball family is a good example. People call Lavar a genius because his kids all made it to some extent, but most importantly is they are all 6’4+, with the functional strength and athletic ability to play at the NBA level, even the one who didn’t make it. It’s not a coincidence that both parents were college athletes.
"Zach LaVine’s sister posts flirtatious TikTok for Jayson Tatum" https://nypost.com/2022/11/02/zach-lavines-sister-posts-tiktok-video-about-jayson-tatum/
Jalen Brunson and the Ball family's mothers both played volleyball in college. Wemby's mother was a top basketball player in her country. Volleyball may be the compromise being that female basketball players aren't generally well regarded in the looks department.
SelfishPlayer wrote:The Mavs won playoff games without Luka
The Mavs missed the playoffs without Brunson.
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Because of the refs isn't it obvious
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One_and_Done wrote:blueNorange wrote:One_and_Done wrote:He plays in the East.
bet this sounded way cooler in your head.
I mean he's a borderline top 10 type guy, but in the West the Knicks would be a 1st round out and nobody would care that much about him. Heck, he's only going to get out of the 2nd round thanks to injuries. Bucks and Sixers (and the Heat) would have smoked the Knicks if they were healthy.
Lmaoooooo well they home and we not
Pretty simple
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The KnicksFix wrote:One_and_Done wrote:blueNorange wrote:bet this sounded way cooler in your head.
I mean he's a borderline top 10 type guy, but in the West the Knicks would be a 1st round out and nobody would care that much about him. Heck, he's only going to get out of the 2nd round thanks to injuries. Bucks and Sixers (and the Heat) would have smoked the Knicks if they were healthy.
Lmaoooooo well they home and we not
Pretty simple
That's how in injuries work yeh.
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One_and_Done wrote:The KnicksFix wrote:One_and_Done wrote:I mean he's a borderline top 10 type guy, but in the West the Knicks would be a 1st round out and nobody would care that much about him. Heck, he's only going to get out of the 2nd round thanks to injuries. Bucks and Sixers (and the Heat) would have smoked the Knicks if they were healthy.
Lmaoooooo well they home and we not
Pretty simple
That's how in injuries work yeh.
Knicks are just as injured. No excuses
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One_and_Done wrote:The KnicksFix wrote:One_and_Done wrote:I mean he's a borderline top 10 type guy, but in the West the Knicks would be a 1st round out and nobody would care that much about him. Heck, he's only going to get out of the 2nd round thanks to injuries. Bucks and Sixers (and the Heat) would have smoked the Knicks if they were healthy.
Lmaoooooo well they home and we not
Pretty simple
That's how in injuries work yeh.
Well a third of our team is injured / out
So what’s the excuse ? That we are playing easier teams?
I thought Miami lost to Philly
Isn’t Philly therefore the tougher team?
And Butler played in that play in game as well…
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One_and_Done wrote:The KnicksFix wrote:One_and_Done wrote:I mean he's a borderline top 10 type guy, but in the West the Knicks would be a 1st round out and nobody would care that much about him. Heck, he's only going to get out of the 2nd round thanks to injuries. Bucks and Sixers (and the Heat) would have smoked the Knicks if they were healthy.
Lmaoooooo well they home and we not
Pretty simple
That's how in injuries work yeh.
Bro got his whole front line out due to injuries
Realgm posters be like “he playing in a weaker conference”
if the whole front line out, how did he win last night ?
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I'm just going to quote OP here for how ridiculous his post is:
"He doesn't look that good. I mean he's short, stocky, not particularly fast. Clearly a good shooter but his stroke doesn't look that pure. Handles look decent. Why does he not pass the eye test, but is playing like one of the best PG's in the game?"
1) He "doesn't look that good"? OK lol
2) "Short"...... tell Allen Iverson that
3) "Stocky" ..... tell Chris Paul that
4) "not particularly fast"..... yeah and when he uses his footwork to get around you, you'll realize how fast he is.
5) "stroke doesn't look that pure"..... ok lol.... his shot is still money and he spent a **** ton of time working on his shot over the past few seasons
Maybe it's that he's a resilient player who has overcome all these doubts, naysayers, and tropes for his entire life, which is what fuels him on a day to day basis.
"He doesn't look that good. I mean he's short, stocky, not particularly fast. Clearly a good shooter but his stroke doesn't look that pure. Handles look decent. Why does he not pass the eye test, but is playing like one of the best PG's in the game?"
1) He "doesn't look that good"? OK lol
2) "Short"...... tell Allen Iverson that
3) "Stocky" ..... tell Chris Paul that
4) "not particularly fast"..... yeah and when he uses his footwork to get around you, you'll realize how fast he is.
5) "stroke doesn't look that pure"..... ok lol.... his shot is still money and he spent a **** ton of time working on his shot over the past few seasons
Maybe it's that he's a resilient player who has overcome all these doubts, naysayers, and tropes for his entire life, which is what fuels him on a day to day basis.
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If watching Jalen Brunson dominates intrigues you, you should watch Tim Hardaway as a Heat. He had an arthritic knee and just came off an ACL during his post Warrior days in Miami. He's like an even shorter Brunson, but slightly hobbled.
SelfishPlayer wrote:The Mavs won playoff games without Luka
The Mavs missed the playoffs without Brunson.
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The KnicksFix wrote:One_and_Done wrote:The KnicksFix wrote:
Lmaoooooo well they home and we not
Pretty simple
That's how in injuries work yeh.
Well a third of our team is injured / out
So what’s the excuse ? That we are playing easier teams?
I thought Miami lost to Philly
Isn’t Philly therefore the tougher team?
And Butler played in that play in game as well…
Injuries to people who matter.
Warspite wrote:Billups was a horrible scorer who could only score with an open corner 3 or a FT.
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One_and_Done wrote:The KnicksFix wrote:One_and_Done wrote:
That's how in injuries work yeh.
Well a third of our team is injured / out
So what’s the excuse ? That we are playing easier teams?
I thought Miami lost to Philly
Isn’t Philly therefore the tougher team?
And Butler played in that play in game as well…
Injuries to people who matter.
Not very bright?
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SelfishPlayer wrote:If watching Jalen Brunson dominates intrigues you, you should watch Tim Hardaway as a Heat. He had an arthritic knee and just came off an ACL during his post Warrior days in Miami. He's like an even shorter Brunson, but slightly hobbled.
You should watch rose and the bulls under thibs
Pay your beals....or its lights out!!!
Bron, Bosh, Wade is like Mike, Hakeem, barkley...3 top 5 picks from same draft
mike, hakeem and Barkley on the same team!!!!
Bron, Bosh, Wade is like Mike, Hakeem, barkley...3 top 5 picks from same draft
mike, hakeem and Barkley on the same team!!!!
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KnixtapeH20 wrote:One_and_Done wrote:The KnicksFix wrote:
Well a third of our team is injured / out
So what’s the excuse ? That we are playing easier teams?
I thought Miami lost to Philly
Isn’t Philly therefore the tougher team?
And Butler played in that play in game as well…
Injuries to people who matter.
Not very bright?
I wouldn't be that harsh on Randle, it's more he's not that good.
Warspite wrote:Billups was a horrible scorer who could only score with an open corner 3 or a FT.
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Footwork, intelligence, touch, and instinct.
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Phish Tank wrote:I'm just going to quote OP here for how ridiculous his post is:
"He doesn't look that good. I mean he's short, stocky, not particularly fast. Clearly a good shooter but his stroke doesn't look that pure. Handles look decent. Why does he not pass the eye test, but is playing like one of the best PG's in the game?"
1) He "doesn't look that good"? OK lol
2) "Short"...... tell Allen Iverson that
3) "Stocky" ..... tell Chris Paul that
4) "not particularly fast"..... yeah and when he uses his footwork to get around you, you'll realize how fast he is.
5) "stroke doesn't look that pure"..... ok lol.... his shot is still money and he spent a **** ton of time working on his shot over the past few seasons
Maybe it's that he's a resilient player who has overcome all these doubts, naysayers, and tropes for his entire life, which is what fuels him on a day to day basis.
GOAT post