UcanUwill wrote:LuDux1 wrote:UcanUwill wrote:
I have no doubt that is true, system is at least flawed everywhere, also corruption is everywhere too. I think human kind still hasn't figured out what is the method of criminal rehabilitation. We want to believe most people would never do anything evil, because of morality, but in all honestly, a lot of people probably aren't criminals only because there are consequences to set behavior.
But in my case, I wasn't talking about rich getting away from justice, but everyone. In my country, you do not need to invest anything at all to get away from literal murder, I don't know what fools made our system, but it enables all sorts of perversions.
What makes you think judge(s) and doctor(s) were wrong in "your" case?
(upsetting topics warning, be advised, maybe do not read, its too long anyway...)
Maybe I am very ignorant, but I grew old seeing people exploit every justice system in the book. Everything is so lenient is truly criminal. If you do not have a job, there is literally no penalty for shoplifting in our country. My family member still works at LiDL and they catch same shoplifters every day, and they used to call the police, but they do not anymore, because police can't arrest them, they only give fines now. But if you do not work, they write off the fine, so there is literally no penalty for shoplifting stores anymore, you can be caught stealing 10 times same day (which happens even), doesn't matter. They used to give community service hours, but for some reason they don't anymore.
Long term jobless people used to do 3 months of community service each year to get pensions. Doesn't happen now. And I worked there, every year it was the same people who maliciously dodge work, because it is their way of life, they simply get enough from social welfare systems, why do they need to work, it is inconvenience (our minimal wages are almost the same as welfare checks anyway, sometimes trully there is no need to have a job at all). The manager who was in charge of community service used to have nicknames for most people, because it is same people each year. Why don't they do community service anymore? I know they barely worked there as was, some would be caught drinking or skipping work, some would be released from "užimtumo tarnyba", but most don't, everyone knows how it goes and that its a circus. And do not get me wrong, I am not very conservative, I understand the need and I support social programs,
but we reached communism level. Too many people exploit the system because system it completely broken.
Complete different example I know, sorry. But going back to murder, why does the guy why did what I have wrote, is free? He is free, I can go for a walk and meet him right now if ''lucky''. In universe doing its work way, I worked with one person for years, she was easily my favorite coworker. And after years, I mentioned that event and she said - he was my classmate, the guy. So, her classmate killed my classmate. And he is just free, We were 13 when it happened, he was completely fre way before we finished highschool, way before. I do not care how it is, IMO it is scummy. He does clearly had mental issues, but he completely comprehends his actions, but like in almost any case, they pitied, he was 23 years old after all...
How long Lavrinovic bros served anyway? Likable players, but what they did was also very evil. Where they of unhealthy mind, are they ''special''? No, we know they aren't.
I think you remember this case, because it was very wide spread around 16 years ago. Drunk driver crashed into another car and killed family of maybe 7 or 8 people, including children. Problem was, he was already caught DUI many times, they took away his license because of it, then he was caught DUI without license many times. Still was NEVER arrested, killed 8 people, still wasn't sentenced... Because it was an
accident... I mean ok, don't we do actions like take his license, because what he does is dangerous to peoples lives? Isn't that the idea? Then we get to the point where he actually kills people, ok, now everyone f'ed up at this point, justice system should have locked him for years to avoid this, right? Well no apparently, because he didn't get locked even after killing people. So the lesson is, no matter what you ever do, there are no real consequences to anything..,
First response to my comment, the comment that got most likes said :
sp6r=underrated wrote:
A consistent finding in criminal justice research is that certainity of punishment does a better job stopping crime than severity of punishment.
What happens when there is no certainty at all? Well, our country happened...
I was very mad, but thats just how it always was. I feel I am very soft and very empathetic person, but I would have skinned that perennial DUI scum alive before hanging him. But they pitied him. I can only hope that his conscious drove him mad from inside for what he did, but since he was drunk idiot behind the wheal entire life, he probably never cared about other human beings.
I remember when I was in elementary school, our teacher said, well, I take it easy on you, but high school teachers wont, get serious... Then I get to highschool, highschool teachers say - we get easy on you, but national exam people wont... Rinse and repeat to a point you are in court for murdering 8 people and they always take easy on you. Our country is quite a joke, sorry. I love some of our parts, but in some others it is Too liberally perverted. Thats just my opinion, I know it was very strong opinion, I hope you do not get too upset and hostile towards me, I like you, but I feel strongly about this, it is very upsetting to me. Sorry if it doesn't answer your question, I obviously has set prejudice against our justice system already, and that's all I really got. Sorry
