Lamar Odom Most Unimproved/Mentally Weak Player in NBA?

EHL · Post #1 » by **EHL** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 5:41 am

Every year he comes into the league with the same game; same weak jump shot that'll look good some games or some seasons (36% and 37% from trey twice, yet other seasons he's 24% or 29% from trey). Comes in with the same left-handed dribble drive, never developing his off hand. He has developed zero counters, that I can see, in his 10 NBA seasons, including this one, which is especially sad considering his great height, length, and speed over the opposition. Essentially it seems as if he never works on his game, summer after summer, whether he's healthy or not. It's really quite amazing to watch.

Some people talk about how you "can't find" 15 and 10 at PF, yet statistically he's in the middle of the pack of PFs in the league and if you look at his statistical production from his first two seasons in the NBA and compare it to the rest of his career, they're actually identical. That is, he had PERs of 16.8 and 18.9 his first two seasons as a Clipper, and his best two statistical seasons since then have been 18.5 in Miami and 17.3 in LA in 05, with a whopping 14.0 this year, a season in which he has generally been horribly inconsistent and offensively inept when it matters most. With Bynum out he's averaging 13 ppg on 35% shooting.

In terms of his mental weaknesses, you really just have to watch this guy play. For example:

- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6y0MXOjmWdo
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71SMu8A3VU4

There are many more examples, like how he drove and charged into a player in a Kings game a couple years ago despite being up by 3 and having the balls with 20 seconds left where he could have just winded down the clock, allowing them to get back in the game and beat the Lakers in OT.

He does seem to play better in the postseason, but it's more to do with Phoenix's lack of defensive depth or ability, and even then he's barely cracking 19 ppg, and with lots of plays run for him too.

Anyway, just wanted the board's thoughts.

Balls · Post #2 » by **Balls** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 5:54 am

The girl who can't dance says the band can't play.

What one knows it is sometimes useful to forget.

Harry Heinous · Post #3 » by **Harry Heinous** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 6:03 am

Phil Jackson's face is so f'n classic when Odom just walked in the inbound

LiquidFire · Post #4 » by **LiquidFire** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 6:08 am

he has a star on his head because in his world hes a all-star this year... id say hes pretty motivated

Taiwan Killa · Post #5 » by **Taiwan Killa** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 6:15 am

Didn't you just post this at Clublakers.com?

Oh well. Yeah the guy isn't motivated. He never wants to improve his game. He just isn't consistent.

He's a good fit next to the more offensively talented Bynum.

Harry Heinous · Post #6 » by **Harry Heinous** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 6:17 am

Taiwan Killa wrote:Didn't you just post this at Clublakers.com?

Oh well. Yeah the guy isn't motivated. He never wants to improve his game. He just isn't consistent.

smoke dat blunt

Odom just an enigma. He steps up randomly in big playoff games and just completely disappears and/or plays like a moron in others.

Cevap · Post #7 » by **Cevap** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 6:23 am

LeRydee23 wrote:he has a star on his head because in his world hes a all-star this year... id say hes pretty motivated

in your sig "country's" is not what you wanna put in but rather "countries"

That Nicka · Post #8 » by **That Nicka** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 6:33 am

Rookie Year:
16.6 ppg, 7.8 rpg, 4.2 apg, 1.2 spg, 1.2 bpg

8th year in the league:
13.5 ppg, 9.6 rpg, 3 apg, 1 spg, .7 bpg

/thread

10scott10 · Post #9 » by **10scott10** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 6:46 am

no, but he has been team mates with two of them.
kwame brown and darius miles.

Craig McDermott · Post #10 » by **Craig McDermott** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 7:09 am

Harry Heinous wrote::rofl: Phil Jackson's face is so f'n classic when Odom just walked in the inbound

How the hell he escaped an M-13 test after that is beyond me. Him and Marbury.

Craig McDermott · Post #11 » by **Craig McDermott** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 7:10 am

That Nicka wrote:Rookie Year:
16.6 ppg, 7.8 rpg, 4.2 apg, 1.2 spg, 1.2 bpg

8th year in the league:
13.5 ppg, 9.6 rpg, 3 apg, 1 spg, .7 bpg

/thread

Wanted to be a Bruin, could only make it as a Rhode Island Ram.

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hermes · Post #12 » by **hermes** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 2:48 pm

Craig McDermott wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Wanted to be a Bruin, could only make it as a Rhode Island Ram.

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exkonvict · Post #13 » by **exkonvict** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 10:47 pm

that would be Kwame "Fine-Hands" Brown.

Odom is a close 2nd though.

Milan24 · Post #14 » by **Milan24** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 10:57 pm

exkonvict wrote:that would be Kwame "Fine-Hands" Brown.

Odom is a close 2nd though.

The thing that sucks is they are both on the same team.

exkonvict · Post #15 » by **exkonvict** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 11:06 pm

Milan24 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

The thing that sucks is they are both on the same team. (picture)

Oh ****, you're right... ****. :banghead:

Phil Jackson · Post #16 » by **Phil Jackson** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 12:23 am

I shook his hand once at a summer league game in 2001

KB20 · Post #17 » by **KB20** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 12:27 am

He's not a right fit for the Lakers. The triangle is too complicated for him. If he was in an uptempo system like Golden State or Phoenix then he would be a beast offensively.

SlickWilly8 · Post #18 » by **SlickWilly8** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 12:39 am

Phil Jackson wrote:I shook his hand once at a summer league game in 2001

How did that make you feal?

TonyMontana · Post #19 » by **TonyMontana** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 12:54 am

Im speechless about L.O .

I cant even come up with something good to say about him or Kwame . :roll:

Joseph17 · Post #20 » by **Joseph17** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 1:34 am

Lamar Odom used to be one of my favorite players because of his potential. Right now he's not even in my top 10. I basically gave up on him. It's really sad because he could have been a top 10 player.