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They are not their former selves. Curry is the closest to being who he was, then Draymond, then Chris Paul then Klay.
Hot Klay is still a dangerous scorer hot Klay happens less than it used to happen. Klay used to be a very good defender but he is now a bad defender. Chris Paul is now a below average defender and Chris Paul’s drive is no longer fast Chris Paul lost his speed.

Draymond is 90% as good as he used to be. Curry is a little slower but he was never fast. Curry’s ball fakes and handles are better than ever. Curry’s defensive techniques are a little improved. Curry seems to have a hard time in first quarters on both offense and defense.

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Wow 6-18 from 3 for Steph tonight. Those games happen.

Just seems crazy because 90% of the league don't even shoot 18 times let's alone from 3.

How the once mighty have fallen…

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rk2023 wrote:How the once mighty have fallen…

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Can't tell you what my mental state would have been if they lost this one lol

That referee is such a **** baby lol do your job

parsnips33 wrote:Can't tell you what my mental state would have been if they lost this one lol

That referee is such a **** baby lol do your job

Oh yeah, of course it's not Draymond being a **** idiot. It's the refs. Again. Excuses over excuses for a player already granted a ton of leniency by the refs for his yelling outbursts. I'm not sure there are more than a handful of people not blaming Draymond for this one but there'll always be some...

The-Power wrote:

parsnips33 wrote:Can't tell you what my mental state would have been if they lost this one lol

That referee is such a **** baby lol do your job

Oh yeah, of course it's not Draymond being a **** idiot. It's the refs. Again. Excuses over excuses for a player already granted a ton of leniency by the refs for his yelling outbursts. I'm not sure there are more than a handful of people not blaming Draymond for this one but there'll always be some...

You really think what he did last night called for an ejection? Not talking about Sabonis thing or the Gobert thing or the Nurkic thing - just last night

parsnips33 wrote:

The-Power wrote:

parsnips33 wrote:Can't tell you what my mental state would have been if they lost this one lol

That referee is such a **** baby lol do your job

Oh yeah, of course it's not Draymond being a **** idiot. It's the refs. Again. Excuses over excuses for a player already granted a ton of leniency by the refs for his yelling outbursts. I'm not sure there are more than a handful of people not blaming Draymond for this one but there'll always be some...

You really think what he did last night called for an ejection? Not talking about Sabonis thing or the Gobert thing or the Nurkic thing - just last night

Part of my point is that Green gets away with a lot more than other players when it comes to excessive complaining. I suppose when you're used to privilege, it may feel like unfair treatment when you're treated the same as others. That doesn't mean that it is indeed unfair treatment, though.

That being said, the other part of the point is that Green is still to blame even if the punishment was slightly excessive. He was already T'd up and continued to argue a call for absolutely no reason whatsoever. Just shut up at that point. He's been in the league long enough. He knows better. And he knows about the importance of these games.

He's an idiot who either didn't think about the consequences of his actions, thought the consequences wouldn't apply to him, or simply didn't care about the consequences. Either way, he's to blame here and fortunately the people who still excuse Green in this situation are few and far between. Even Kerr unambiguously said he deserved it.

The-Power wrote:

parsnips33 wrote:

The-Power wrote:Oh yeah, of course it's not Draymond being a **** idiot. It's the refs. Again. Excuses over excuses for a player already granted a ton of leniency by the refs for his yelling outbursts. I'm not sure there are more than a handful of people not blaming Draymond for this one but there'll always be some...

You really think what he did last night called for an ejection? Not talking about Sabonis thing or the Gobert thing or the Nurkic thing - just last night

Part of my point is that Green gets away with a lot more than other players when it comes to excessive complaining. I suppose when you're used to privilege, it may feel like unfair treatment when you're treated the same as others. That doesn't mean that it is indeed unfair treatment, though.

That being said, the other part of the point is that Green is still to blame even if the punishment was slightly excessive. He was already T'd up and continued to argue a call for absolutely no reason whatsoever. Just shut up at that point. He's been in the league long enough. He knows better. And he knows about the importance of these games.

He's an idiot who either didn't think about the consequences of his actions, thought the consequences wouldn't apply to him, or simply didn't care about the consequences. Either way, he's to blame here and fortunately the people who still excuse Green in this situation are few and far between. Even Kerr unambiguously said he deserved it.

Draymond obviously not without blame. We know who he is at this point. And the team absolutely needs him so I do hope this is the last time we see him ejected this season.

But calling a second tech on a guy as he's walking away from you is insane ego-trip stuff. Don't care if he called you a swear word, get over yourself. Don't think it's a coincidence this was one of the younger refs, don't think a real vet would have let himself get carried away like that (I realize how ironic this is in the context of talking about Draymond )

I think all players should be able to plead their case/argue about a call without getting ejected. Save that card for when it's actually called for. It's not called the National Referee Association for crying out loud

Draymond has lost the benefit of the doubt in these situations. He's behaved so poorly so often that he should get less rope than the average player.

He acts this way again and again, and for what? To feed his inner child tantrum monster? He's a four-time champion and should have some composure, just like everyone else. I don't buy his line that he needs to be this way to play well. After his Nurkic suspension, he actually toned it down for quite a long time, all while playing very well. Quit hurting your team, dude.

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Just a ridiculous second half from Draymond, defensive master at work

Defense with Draymond at the 4 next to TJD has been very formidable, curious to see if Kuminga keeps his spot when gets back