The LeBron James- 23-24 NBA Playoffs & Off-Season Thread -(NO PERSONAL ATTACKS & BAITING)

[tsherkin]

20 years from now this will be lopsided in LeBron’s favor. It’s already almost 50/50 with Jordan.

We'll see how it goes.

New generations, long, accomplished and distinguished career. Major records broken/set. It's not an inappropriate thing to consider. Regardless of how the vote goes, I think Jordan will always be in the discussion. Same with Kareem. Same with Russell. In 50 years, we'll see where we're at. I mean, I'll probably be dead, so that's a generic "we," heh. But regardless, things do change over time. The game will also have changed. I wonder what the equivalent of "you need to win more than 7 games to win a title" will be for Lebron compared to the modern game that far along, right?

[rk2023]

20 years from now this will be lopsided in LeBron’s favor. It’s already almost 50/50 with Jordan.

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Wemby coming

[nzahir]

Guys it wasnt tanking on purpose lol

If we ended up getting bounced, how would that have felt? Embarassing, no?

Denver is the best team in the NBA imo, if we can beat them/be competitive, we know we at least have a good fondation to build off of

What if Denver gets an injury or two? You never know, better to be in it than not at all

Keys/notes for tonight:
Dlo and Reaves need to do more, especially Dlo.

Cant be going 1/9 for 3 when a majority were open or wide open shots. If he shoots 4/9, we may win the game. Probably do win it honestly

Need to start of well again to have some sort of buffer/cushion as Lebron could gas out again in Denver late

Need to get REBOUNDS!! They killed us on the glass. Some of this is due to them being big and us being down Vando and Wood, but some of it is effort and about pride

Ham also better not play AD and Hayes together when Jokic is out, that was a horrific idea. We started to lose our lead then

Hayes is a negative player, sadly no Wood unitl next game and lets even see how he looks

[Ian Scuffling]

20 years from now this will be lopsided in LeBron’s favor. It’s already almost 50/50 with Jordan.

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The fact that Kobe is 3rd says just about everything. Jordan was arguably the GOAT as a player and then picked Kwame Brown number one overall. Just because you can play doesn't mean you're a good evaluator of talent.

[tsherkin]

The fact that Kobe is 3rd says just about everything. Jordan was arguably the GOAT as a player and then picked Kwame Brown number one overall. Just because you can play doesn't mean you're a good evaluator of talent.

It's a player poll. They're as vulnerable as anyone to nostalgia and other biases. Kobe has no business anywhere near the GOAT argument, but he was an immensely popular figure, and happened to also be a very good player at the same time. Closest thing to Mike since Mike, and the players loved his style. Many of the younger guys grew up watching him and held the same emotional connection to him as guys from my generation and before have to Jordan, so it's not a surprise. The fact that neither Russell nor Kareem (or Wilt) is on that list says everything which need be said about recency bias in that subject.

[Greatness]

Lakers win tonight

[rk2023]

Lakers win tonight

How so? I think considering everything about game 1, we have another uphill battle in store..

[homecourtloss]

Personally, I’d go with Option #1 there (as great as Jokic is, I don’t think the talent of the Nuggets is enough to make them some unbeatable juggernaut, especially against very talented teams like the Lakers or any other Western Conference playoff team this year).

I see what you’re doing here (and in your previous post)

[lessthanjake]

Personally, I’d go with Option #1 there (as great as Jokic is, I don’t think the talent of the Nuggets is enough to make them some unbeatable juggernaut, especially against very talented teams like the Lakers or any other Western Conference playoff team this year).

I see what you’re doing here (and in your previous post)

Huh? What do you think I’m “doing here”? The Nuggets are not an unbeatable juggernaut (at least in my estimation) and the Lakers are a very talented team. Do you disagree with either of those assessments? And what do you think I’m “doing” by stating those views? Does it occur to you that people may actually just give their actual basketball views, rather than positioning their views on random things to support some sort of overarching agenda (which I assume is what you’re getting at here in some way I can’t quite discern)? (And is the fact that you seem to make such an assumption about others’ approach to discussion indicative of what your approach is?)

[thebigbird]

Personally, I’d go with Option #1 there (as great as Jokic is, I don’t think the talent of the Nuggets is enough to make them some unbeatable juggernaut, especially against very talented teams like the Lakers or any other Western Conference playoff team this year).

I see what you’re doing here (and in your previous post)

The ole Skip Bayless ‘build em up so I can tear them down twice as much.’ Very transparent.

[lessthanjake]

Personally, I’d go with Option #1 there (as great as Jokic is, I don’t think the talent of the Nuggets is enough to make them some unbeatable juggernaut, especially against very talented teams like the Lakers or any other Western Conference playoff team this year).

I see what you’re doing here (and in your previous post)

The ole Skip Bayless ‘build em up so I can tear them down twice as much.’ Very transparent.

I’m just genuinely perplexed by this kind of response. Do you think the Lakers aren’t a very talented team? They’re about to have one of their players be all-NBA second team this year and another be all-NBA third team. So they’ve got two all-NBA guys (and these are guys that are no stranger to all-NBA, not random selections where that overstates their talent). That by itself makes them a very talented team! Having two all-NBA guys on the same team isn’t common! And they have a lot of quality players outside of that too. Meanwhile, the same basic team made the WCF finals last year while being less healthy than they are now. Creating some kind of conspiracy theory about someone’s motivations because they called the Lakers very talented is just bizarre IMO.

[Heej]

I see what you’re doing here (and in your previous post)

The ole Skip Bayless ‘build em up so I can tear them down twice as much.’ Very transparent.

I’m just genuinely perplexed by this kind of response. Do you think the Lakers aren’t a very talented team? They’re about to have one of their players be all-NBA second team this year and another be all-NBA third team. So they’ve got two all-NBA guys (and these are guys that are no stranger to all-NBA, not random selections where that overstates their talent). That by itself makes them a very talented team! Having two all-NBA guys on the same team isn’t common! And they have a lot of quality players outside of that too. Meanwhile, the same basic team made the WCF finals last year while being less healthy than they are now. Creating some kind of conspiracy theory about someone’s motivations because they called the Lakers very talented is just bizarre IMO.

It's honestly too bad that a team isn't made of only 2 players. Unfortunately for the Lakers, reality dictates having around 8 rotation players for a finals run and around 3 or 4 quality coaches with tactical input managing games on the bench (with ideally one really good one calling set plays on most possessions depending on what defensive package is being employed)

Alas, this is why I say most casuals are really incapable of seeing basketball beyond reductive 1v1 comparisons. After coming to that realization I see this pattern more and more in online basketball discourse. Even in places with better understanding of the game like here.

[GSP]

The fact that Kobe is 3rd says just about everything. Jordan was arguably the GOAT as a player and then picked Kwame Brown number one overall. Just because you can play doesn't mean you're a good evaluator of talent.

It's a player poll. They're as vulnerable as anyone to nostalgia and other biases. Kobe has no business anywhere near the GOAT argument, but he was an immensely popular figure, and happened to also be a very good player at the same time. Closest thing to Mike since Mike, and the players loved his style. Many of the younger guys grew up watching him and held the same emotional connection to him as guys from my generation and before have to Jordan, so it's not a surprise. The fact that neither Russell nor Kareem (or Wilt) is on that list says everything which need be said about recency bias in that subject.

Average of an Nba player is 26yo so they wouldve been finishing up high school or in college during Kobes prime.........not surprising theyd pick him since the only Mj they were alive for was Wizards Mj. Theres also a narrative among alot of zoomer casuals that Kobe was Mj w/ a 3 ball lol

[homecourtloss]

I see what you’re doing here (and in your previous post)

The ole Skip Bayless ‘build em up so I can tear them down twice as much.’ Very transparent.

I’m just genuinely perplexed by this kind of response. Do you think the Lakers aren’t a very talented team? They’re about to have one of their players be all-NBA second team this year and another be all-NBA third team. So they’ve got two all-NBA guys (and these are guys that are no stranger to all-NBA, not random selections where that overstates their talent). That by itself makes them a very talented team! Having two all-NBA guys on the same team isn’t common! And they have a lot of quality players outside of that too. Meanwhile, the same basic team made the WCF finals last year while being less healthy than they are now. Creating some kind of conspiracy theory about someone’s motivations because they called the Lakers very talented is just bizarre IMO.

[ronnymac2]

That was such a sick pass.

[GSP]

Bro Im getting dejavu. Is this game gonna end the same as all the others lol............

[dreamshake]

Bro Im getting dejavu. Is this game gonna end the same as all the others lol............

[IG2]

I see what you’re doing here (and in your previous post)

He's in literally every LeBron thread arguing against him. Ignore the troll.

[toodles23]

That was one of the best halves of ball I've seen AD play since the bubble. He's such a different player when his jumper is falling.

Oh, and what a **** layup by Lebron, I have no idea how that thing went in. This game feels ripe for the Lakers to lay an egg in the third, hope I'm wrong.

[Joao Saraiva]

At his age and milage... Bron steps up to do the dirty work. Defense, rebounding, distributing... He has a fantastic mentality.

Say whatever you want but this is a factor in longevity, cause he's shown time and time again he can adapt and play any role for his team.