The SF1976 Draft Thread (Final Update On Page 90)

[rswknight]

TGP:

C'mon, bro...

If we are going to stay at 17, I guess that I would be OK with Lawson...but if you are going to use the MLE on Korver, then you have made your bet - Lawson is your PG of the future. He's small, doesn't have much of a rep as a defender, and you are banking on his ability to shoot from distance in the NBA. Could he turn out to be another Jameer Nelson? Maybe...but I'm not comfortable with just sitting there and hoping that the guy to falls to us at 17 is the most important addition that this team needs.

Korver would be a nice person to add, but how many minutes can you give him? How many minutes can you play him? He can probably play some minutes with Iggy at the 2 and Thad at the 4...but I don't see the addition of Lawson and Korver to the rotation leading to an improvement in our perimeter defense...do you? Korver would be nice to add, but given our needs at PG (particularly if Miller walks), I'm not feeling comfortable with putting all of our eggs in Lawson's basket - which is what you would be doing if you don't use the MLE on a PG.

I guess I am resigned to Sammy staying - unless some GM decides to be stupid.

I am still of the opinion that we need to be more aggressive to fill the PG slot...use Speights to make something happen...and - if his price comes down - use the MLE on Rasheed (maybe he'll give us a home-town discount)...I think he would be an upgrade over Sammy, and he would give us another shooter in the lineup.

Hey Bop -

Want to correct a few issues. Lawson is actually a very good defender, especially on the ball and the passing lanes. He would be very good here. Him and Dala as a guard tandem would be very good. As far as the PG spot, the Princeton offense does not need a conventional PG.

[bebopdeluxe]

rsw:

Lawson may have been a good defender in college, but I am going to remain skeptical of a 6-foot PG's ability to defend at the NBA level until I see him do it. The other thing is that I view Lawson as more of a "traditional" PG...and you are right - my sense (echoed by Jordan in his comments on WIP yesterday) is that the Princeton offense isn't so much a traditional PG and a SG, but two combo guards...and we already have one short combo guard in LWill. I would rather see a bigger guy with more of a shooting stroke (like Hinrich or Curry) than a short, traditional PG like Lawson.

To be clear, I am OK with us taking Lawson...but only if we have another PG in place to start the season (either by trade or MLE signing).

[sixerfan1976]

I really think Lou Will starts at PG if Andre leaves.....unless we get a PG back in a sign and trade.

[Sixersftw]

I really think Lou Will starts at PG if Andre leaves.....

[howiezbt]

Love Lawson or Maynor at #17. I like Lawson more because I think he is a great floor leader and had a nice balance of strength and speed. Five steals in the national champioship is great!

I think there are a few nice options for both trades and free agents.

I like a Willie Green for Matt Carroll trade to start. Gets us great shooting without a log jam at SG or spending free agent $$$.

Possibly trading for Rasual Butler or Morris Petersen to fit in the 2-guard spot would work as well.

As to free agents. Jarrett Jack or Janerro Pargo at PG would be nice if we can't resign Dre Miller while we wait for Lawson to mature.

[corwin]

id love for us to move Reggie Evans to Toronto for Kapono. Its such a perfect deal as the salaries are very close and they are both specialists...Kapono 3pt shooting and Evans Rebounding/Hustle but i dont kno if this would ever surface.

Why not Matt Carroll since he can play the 2? Carroll has four years on a declining contract but makes about the same as Evans next year. Dallas would receive a two year shorter contract while the Sixers would move Evans who in my mind doesn't fit on this team for Carroll. Philly would still have the MLE to use. You know what, I think I'll post this on the trade board.

[rswknight]

rsw:

Lawson may have been a good defender in college, but I am going to remain skeptical of a 6-foot PG's ability to defend at the NBA level until I see him do it. The other thing is that I view Lawson as more of a "traditional" PG...and you are right - my sense (echoed by Jordan in his comments on WIP yesterday) is that the Princeton offense isn't so much a traditional PG and a SG, but two combo guards...and we already have one short combo guard in LWill. I would rather see a bigger guy with more of a shooting stroke (like Hinrich or Curry) than a short, traditional PG like Lawson.

To be clear, I am OK with us taking Lawson...but only if we have another PG in place to start the season (either by trade or MLE signing).

Bop -
I understand your reservations about Lawson, and I would love it if he had his same skill set in a 6'6" body(of course that guy would not drop to 17 either). I would like to see them pursue Hinrich, but I don't think it is likely, because it would likely rely on Portland being a bridge because they love Miller, but if I am Portland, why not just take Hinrich instead?

As I have said before, I think that the guard opposite Dala needs to be able to shoot and defend and Lawson can do that. That's why I am okay with it. Plus, his speed in our transition game is a deadly combo, though I think he would not start.

As far as the starter goes, unless we acquire a legit starter via trade, I would have Williams and Dala at the guards, with Dala having the lionshare of the orchestration duties. Lawson would be my back up and the floor leader for the bench mob that will turn 2nd quarters into track meets. I believe Lou can be Good Lou this year, playing under control, and with Dala & Brand as the floor leaders, less likely to have defensive issues, unlike "lead by example" Miller.

[rswknight]

HEY SF1976 -

Given the talk about trading Sam, are they trying for a big coming back? If not, who are the "Eds" looking at in free agency for bigs that could replace Sam, if he's moved? I like Gortat, but I think that Sheldon Williams could be a good value pick-up as a smart defensive banger. Williams could be cheap and he might help us with Parker(his brother in law).

[youngcrev]

^I know you want an answer from him... but with Elton and Jason Smith coming back, they probably feel comfortable with the amount of bigs we have even without Sam.

[rswknight]

^I know you want an answer from him... but with Elton and Jason Smith coming back, they probably feel comfortable with the amount of bigs we have even without Sam.

Well, in the EJ Blogger conference call yesterday, EJ mentioned that he would like another defensive big. I'd hope they would not think that only three bigs(none a true center) on the roster would work. Sheldon would be a center here, and I think that he could be a player still. He was a consensus lottery pick, who has become a good banger and shotblocker, but has some issues with fouls. His only issues are offensively, but Brand, Smith and Speights are scorers so that is not a problem, and he is smart enough to get out of the way.

[sixerswillrule]

Some other big men FAs are Andersen, Pachulia, and Nesterovic. They would probably require a good portion of the MLE though.
But if Sam goes, I think we should definitely pick up another center to at least have on the roster.

[youngcrev]

I guess Sheldon would be a decent pick up if a came for the minimum. Sorry, didn't notice that last sentence in your post the first time around. Especially interesting with the brother-in-law part. Just saw Gortat, and skipped the rest, because he'd be a full MLE guy that would require a lot of PT.

[rswknight]

I guess Sheldon would be a decent pick up if a came for the minimum. Sorry, didn't notice that last sentence in your post the first time around. Especially interesting with the brother-in-law part. Just saw Gortat, and skipped the rest, because he'd be a full MLE guy that would require a lot of PT.

No worries. I would rather use the MLE on the shooter, and get a guy like Sheldon to fill those other minutes. What got me thinking about it is the fact that Candace Parker was on PTI. Plus, Brand can help recruit Sheldon(Dukie connection).

I figure if we got Williams or another big, the bigs minutes should break down like this:

Brand = 36 min
Smith and Speights = 20+ each
Thad = 5-10?
Williams = 10+

[rswknight]

Some other big men FAs are Andersen, Pachulia, and Nesterovic. They would probably require a good portion of the MLE though.
But if Sam goes, I think we should definitely pick up another center to at least have on the roster.

Exactly, and I'd rather we spent most of the MLE on a shooter if possible. I think we still the Bi-Annual and the LLE to use. So, perhaps we can get Sheldon on a Ivey type of deal. At least, he strikes me as offensively savvy Reggie Evans style banger who can block shots. He might turn into a working-class Ben Wallace?

[corwin]

"Shell Head is not a true center & would just add one more power forward to the mix of wannabe centers on this team.

[sixerswillrule]

"Shell Head is not a true center & would just add one more power forward to the mix of wannabe centers on this team.

Would be more like havetobe centers than wannabe, lol. Which is exactly why we would need one to replace Sam if he is traded.

[youngcrev]

I guess Sheldon would be a decent pick up if a came for the minimum. Sorry, didn't notice that last sentence in your post the first time around. Especially interesting with the brother-in-law part. Just saw Gortat, and skipped the rest, because he'd be a full MLE guy that would require a lot of PT.

No worries. I would rather use the MLE on the shooter, and get a guy like Sheldon to fill those other minutes. What got me thinking about it is the fact that Candace Parker was on PTI. Plus, Brand can help recruit Sheldon(Dukie connection).

I figure if we got Williams or another big, the bigs minutes should break down like this:

Brand = 36 min
Smith and Speights = 20+ each
Thad = 5-10?
Williams = 10+

You forget Reggie (understandable)

[rswknight]

Reggie was forgotten on purpose.

As far as Sheldon not being a pure center. He is a multi-positional tweener whose skill set I believe leans toward being more of a C/F than F/C. He has the wing span, the defensive IQ and the sheer physicality to play center spot for limited minutes in today's kinder, gentler NBA.

[PhilasFinest]

that Matt Carroll/Reggie Evans deal would make sense to me...

Hes a good shooter and has a contract longer, and somewhat similar to Evans'....if Dallas wants some toughness down low (i think they could use it) i think the deal makes alot of sense...

[PhilasFinest]

Hey SF...
any word on the workouts??

what were there thoughts on Lawson/Williams/Meeks etc and whos up next?