NBA Finals: Boston vs. LA Lakers - Series BOS leads (2-1)

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Who wins Game 4?

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Post#61 » by semi-sentient » Wed Jun 11, 2008 7:16 pm

Why did it take so long to call a foul on the Garnett moving screens?

3 strikes and you're out? They need to call it the 1st time.
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Post#62 » by LaL25 » Wed Jun 11, 2008 7:52 pm

semi-sentient wrote:Why did it take so long to call a foul on the Garnett moving screens?

3 strikes and you're out? They need to call it the 1st time.


He travels alot on his spin moves too.
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Post#63 » by mbucks22 » Wed Jun 11, 2008 8:00 pm

HarlemHeat37 wrote:I can't blame them for being pussies and jumping somebody..their favorite player attacks innocent people too..it's the Laker way..


How exactly is it Kobe's fault that the Celtic fan that was talking a lot of crap got his a*s kicked? I fail to see the logic behind your thinking.
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Post#64 » by HarlemHeat37 » Wed Jun 11, 2008 8:01 pm

lol obviously a joke..
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Post#65 » by A.J. » Wed Jun 11, 2008 8:01 pm

LaL25 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



He travels alot on his spin moves too.


Not really. He has a smooth spin move, and he rarely travels.
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Post#66 » by Don Draper » Wed Jun 11, 2008 8:09 pm

A.J. wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Not really. He has a smooth spin move, and he rarely travels.


Dwayne Wade and Lebron James on the other hand are grade A travelers
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Post#67 » by LaL25 » Wed Jun 11, 2008 8:12 pm

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Not really. He has a smooth spin move, and he rarely travels.


You're right, it's not his spin move, but he travels pretty frequently for a big man, and he got called for 2 or 3 last night. I mean, he's obviously a really great player, I'm not hating, but his illegal picks are really bad and some of his travels are pretty blatant.
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Post#68 » by Don Draper » Wed Jun 11, 2008 8:16 pm

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You're right, it's not his spin move, but he travels pretty frequently for a big man, and he got called for 2 or 3 last night. I mean, he's obviously a really great player, I'm not hating, but his illegal picks are really bad and some of his travels are pretty blatant.


By definition almost every big man in the NBA sets illegal screens. Stop nitpicking. Some of you guys want the games to be called as if they are playing in a concentration camp.

The things homers say...
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Post#69 » by tracey_nice » Wed Jun 11, 2008 8:20 pm

That one turn-around by KG was an enormous travel, how that didn't get called...I don't know.
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Post#70 » by odb 7777 » Wed Jun 11, 2008 8:50 pm

KG legacy as the most overrated player in NBA history still grows...
Missed 36 of his last 50 shots.
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Post#71 » by Don Draper » Wed Jun 11, 2008 8:53 pm

odb 7777 wrote:KG legacy as the most overrated player in NBA history still grows...
Missed 36 of his last 50 shots.


Sorry that has to be Iverson.
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Post#72 » by Bgil » Wed Jun 11, 2008 8:55 pm

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By definition almost every big man in the NBA sets illegal screens. Stop nitpicking. Some of you guys want the games to be called as if they are playing in a concentration camp.

The things homers say...


Garnett is getting away with murder on his screens. They aren't just moving but he's flat out pushing guys. Look at that video again and watch the very first pick. He's blocking guys like he's playing for the Patriots.
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Post#73 » by greenbeans » Wed Jun 11, 2008 9:17 pm

Bgil wrote:He's blocking guys like he's playing for the Patriots.

then theyd be running right by him
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Post#74 » by damavs02 » Wed Jun 11, 2008 9:34 pm

It did seem like as the night wore on, Garnett got more and more aggressive with his screen setting. There was a play in the fourth where Odom tipped the ball out and almost got a steal, the Celtics recovered and Garnett screened/pushed the Laker defender twice so he couldn't get over to challenge a Ray Allen three.

I normally wouldn't mind them letting the players play away from the ball more, but when you're running directly off a screen into a jumper, I'd like the screen to be cleaner than what Garnett was doing.

The same official on the other end, then called Gasol for a foul when he and Garnett got locked up in the middle away from the ball, irrelevant to the play.

One of the reasons why Garnett was wide open for that dunk down the lane late, was the Lakers were having to blitz around the screen to challenge a jumper, since they had no chance of fighting through the multiple, aggressive screens Garnett was setting.
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Post#75 » by Chubby Chaser » Wed Jun 11, 2008 9:52 pm

tracey_nice wrote:That one turn-around by KG was an enormous travel, how that didn't get called...I don't know.


Yeah that was a pretty bad travel. But not as bad as the one on Radman on his breakaway dunk in game 2 :o I was glad the refs didn't call that, but that travel was just absurd.
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Post#76 » by NO-KG-AI » Wed Jun 11, 2008 10:06 pm

oh he was getting rough with the screens, and I think every time they didn't call it, he was trying to throw a little bit more into it.

The one where Kobe got totally stuck in his chest though, that one looked legit.
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Post#77 » by Celtsfan1980 » Wed Jun 11, 2008 10:09 pm

People are still complaining about the officiating? Both teams had horrible calls go for and against them, so I just don't see it. Lakers fans have a case for game 2, but not game 1 or 3.
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Post#78 » by Milan24 » Wed Jun 11, 2008 10:20 pm

Celtsfan1980 wrote:People are still complaining about the officiating? Both teams had horrible calls go for and against them, so I just don't see it. Lakers fans have a case for game 2, but not game 1 or 3.

Seriously, what else is there to talk about except the officiating right now? You don't have anything to add so you complain about people complaining about offciating.
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Post#79 » by damavs02 » Wed Jun 11, 2008 10:25 pm

It just seems like with the Pistons in 2004, Bruce Bowen for his career, and the Celtics this year, the way to success is to get away with as much bending of the rules as possible. Knowing how to subvert the rules and get away with things seems as important as defensive fundamentals. Guys like Bowen, P.J. Brown, Mutumbo, and Mourning can probably play forever, since they have a combination of these skills and a defensive reputation.

The time KG got called for the screen, it was probably the cleanest of the 5 or 6 he set that play. At that point he was just getting greedy.
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Post#80 » by greenbeans » Wed Jun 11, 2008 10:33 pm

damavs02 wrote:It just seems like with the Pistons in 2004, Bruce Bowen for his career, and the Celtics this year, the way to success is to get away with as much bending of the rules as possible. Knowing how to subvert the rules and get away with things seems as important as defensive fundamentals. Guys like Bowen, P.J. Brown, Mutumbo, and Mourning can probably play forever, since they have a combination of these skills and a defensive reputation.

The time KG got called for the screen, it was probably the cleanest of the 5 or 6 he set that play. At that point he was just getting greedy.

dont forget MJ on that first list of yours.

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