JujitsuFlip wrote:JonFromVA wrote:JujitsuFlip wrote:Me too, more than anything, Cavs haven't won a series without LeBron in like 30+ years or something.
Yeah, agreed another 1st round loss probably ensures Mitchell doesn't extend. Doesn't mean they will trade him though, Koby has been very okay with being very passive this season. It doesn't even mean Jb will be gone, especially if the Cavs eclipse that 51 regular season win mark.
As it stands today the Cavs are currently matched up with the Heat, which I hate that matchup but nothing guarantees the Cavs will finish #2 then even if they do, the play-in has to happen.
I am not fond of firing a coach just to fire a coach. If the playoffs go poorly and we do fire JBB, I'm hoping we have someone back-channeled in mind. And if a specific coach is a pre-condition of Mitchell or Mobley being willing to extend, we'd have to consider that.
JBB is lined up to be the fall guy in case the team disappoints. I wonder if what the Bucks have gone through will inform our actions.
But the "playoffs going poorly" is a very subjective term.
What Mitchell thinks that means is important to his future.
What Koby thinks that means is important to Jb's future.
Potetinally what Dan thinks that means is important to Koby and Jb's future but i doubt it.
What the fan's think that mean isn't important but it could still vary from fan to fan.
I think Koby resting on his laurels based on a 20 game sample is foolish; especially since the opponent combined record is 448-646 (40.95% winning percentage). Sitting on his hands could come back to bite him in the butt.
A lot of things could come back to bite Koby, but doing something like betting on his own guys is a forward looking approach. The idea is to get this group of players to take responsibility for their success or lack there of and they didn't want to lose anyone to add someone else. So, it's on them to fill any gaps that may leave in the roster. If they fail, I hope they take responsibility and commit themselves to learn, grow, and want to try again as a group.
If Mitchell feels like he's part of this group, it's more likely he will want to stay regardless of how the season ends. I feel the worst way to do things is like the Cavs did leading up to 2010 and 2018 where they kept making roster changes trying to appease LeBron, but had little youth and only limited ways to improve the team that were all contingent on someone asking to be traded to the Cavs to play with LeBron rather than say the Heat or Lakers.
If we do end up trading one of our young promising players like Bates, CPJ, even Okoro; I want to cash out on their peak value, not because some team with a rental has caught us desperate to make a move to appease Dan Gilbert, LeBron James, or ... Don Mitchell.