ESPN: Kevin Garnott?

Cep · Post #1 » by **Cep** » Tue May 13, 2008 7:11 pm

That's what they're calling him on ESPN, lol. What sucks is that their arguments are pretty much true. He was up there for regular season MVP, but like he did in Minny, in the playoffs and with pressure, he does not look for the ball, fades away from any contact, does not attack the basket, and settles for outside shots when he chooses to take the ball. Man, don't get me wrong, I loved the acquisition and I think he's been great for us, but we need him to be more of a presence. Sometimes his "intensity" and rah rah seems fake, cause he talks a lot and when it comes down to play, he is soft when it matters. I know it's not his sole fault we're struggling in the road and all, but he has to live up to his name. Now ESPN calls him Garnott, and spend 5 minutes bashing him and saying he'll pretty much not win a title because he is overrated. And it hurt to agree with 90% of what was said.

TommyPoints · Post #2 » by **TommyPoints** » Tue May 13, 2008 7:16 pm

Was it Skip Bayless saying that? He has been calling him that forever. Anyway, I've been pretty disappointed in KG. I love the guy and he is a great player, but he really doesn't take over when it seems like he easly could to me. I dont know what his problem is. If he doesn't get aggressive and start attacking the basket I dont see us going much further.

Pass277 · Post #3 » by **Pass277** » Tue May 13, 2008 7:17 pm

I didn't hear him saying that after game 1 when Garnett played extremely well late in the game!

greenbeans · Post #4 » by **greenbeans** » Tue May 13, 2008 7:18 pm

its not the city to pull this type stuff. its not Minny, the love isnt unconditional unless you prove you can win first

Cep · Post #5 » by **Cep** » Tue May 13, 2008 7:25 pm

Well, as much as it wasn't KG's sole fault, he got shut down by Anderson Varejao.

BrokenLeftyJumper · Post #6 » by **BrokenLeftyJumper** » Tue May 13, 2008 8:04 pm

KG is a system player on offense. He can score 20 ppg, but its going to be within the structure of the team offense.

Its stupid for people to bag on him for not being more selfish, and act like if KG wanted to he could score 40 every night. Garnett is NOT a dominant one on one scorer. Never has been, never will be. He doesn't have the strength to dominate on the box, and doesn't quite have the quickness or skill to face up and attack off the dribble all day.

He's a great player, but he's not an explosive scorer. I would say he gets the great majority of his points off having a game structured towards team play (ability to finish down low, ability to play screen roll and hit jumpers, and the occasional low post score).

He can't just flip the switch and score 30 a game like some people want to believe.

greenbeans · Post #7 » by **greenbeans** » Tue May 13, 2008 8:06 pm

well maybe theres a switch so he plays the same every quarter??

P2 · Post #8 » by P2 » Tue May 13, 2008 8:09 pm

Cep wrote:he got shut down by Anderson Varejao.

Yeah, the player who is labeled a liability on both ends of the court.

Post #9 » by **Bleeding Green** » Tue May 13, 2008 8:12 pm

Varejao is a very nice defensive player. And Garnett is the only player showing up offensively in this series. Garnett has been the best player in the entire series. I don't know what the **** ESPN is talking about.

ermocrate · Post #10 » by **ermocrate** » Tue May 13, 2008 8:16 pm

I'm wandering if there was all this LeBron bashing in Cleveland when he chucked in the first two games of the series.... :roll:

greenbeans · Post #11 » by **greenbeans** » Tue May 13, 2008 8:21 pm

id hope so^^

MyInsatiableOne · Post #12 » by **MyInsatiableOne** » Tue May 13, 2008 8:30 pm

Bleeding Green wrote:Varejao is a very nice defensive player. And Garnett is the only player showing up offensively in this series. Garnett has been the best player in the entire series. I don't know what the **** ESPN is talking about.

For the entirety of the playoffs KG is the only Celtic who has **** BROUGHT IT every single damn night. KG gets nothing but love and respect from the true Celtic fans.

Post #13 » by **Bleeding Green** » Tue May 13, 2008 8:42 pm

Seriously, are people watching this stuff? Garnett has been fantastic during the entirety of the playoffs. The only guy on the Celtics who has actually stepped up his game during the playoffs. If not for Garnett, the Celtics would be at home playing golf right now.

pballa · Post #14 » by **pballa** » Tue May 13, 2008 8:50 pm

varejao sucks

meatball sub · Post #15 » by **meatball sub** » Tue May 13, 2008 10:33 pm

Cep wrote:That's what they're calling him on ESPN, lol. What sucks is that their arguments are pretty much true. He was up there for regular season MVP, but like he did in Minny, in the playoffs and with pressure, he does not look for the ball, fades away from any contact, does not attack the basket, and settles for outside shots when he chooses to take the ball. Man, don't get me wrong, I loved the acquisition and I think he's been great for us, but we need him to be more of a presence. Sometimes his "intensity" and rah rah seems fake, cause he talks a lot and when it comes down to play, he is soft when it matters. I know it's not his sole fault we're struggling in the road and all, but he has to live up to his name. Now ESPN calls him Garnott, and spend 5 minutes bashing him and saying he'll pretty much not win a title because he is overrated. And it hurt to agree with 90% of what was said.

That's what she said.

Beryl 96 · Post #16 » by **Beryl 96** » Tue May 13, 2008 10:35 pm

Bulls fan here(rooting for Celts to win it all) and I saw them bashing KG, and I thought it was stupid of them seeing as how KG has been the only guy playing anywhere near all-star level this series.

There is however some truth to it, there have been times during this series and during the hawks series where things aren't going well and KG isn't getting the ball, and when he is, he isn't really doing much.

I think the key to getting your team going is Ray Allen, Ray Allen needs to start making his shots, if he does that it should relieve some pressure off of Pierce and allow him to break out of his slump somewhat, reason I don't think it needs to begin with Pierce is because Pierce is being guarded by LeBron, so Allen needs to go off and create some space.

Anyways, Goodluck, Finals: Celts over Lakers in 7.

greenbeans · Post #17 » by **greenbeans** » Tue May 13, 2008 10:35 pm

bove310 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

That's what she said.

so funny yet so true

sdeezy · Post #18 » by **sdeezy** » Tue May 13, 2008 10:56 pm

The fact that KG has been the only consistent guy out of the big 3 is the reason he is being hammered. When you're the one guy who's got it going and the one that can get whatever he wants on the court, you need to demand the ball in crunch time. This was a 3 point game with 5 minutes to go, screw ubuntu, somebody needs to grab the game by the balls. LeBron does it, Duncan(prior to Parker and Manu's emergence) did it, all the great ones do. When you're considered a top 5 PF of all time, you should carry your team when it matters. Ray is out of it, Pierce has got his hands full, KG needed to step up, its that simple. Get down on the block and let most of the offensive possessions go through you.

Post #19 » by **TheOUTLAW** » Tue May 13, 2008 11:18 pm

ermocrate wrote:I'm wandering if there was all this LeBron bashing in Cleveland when he chucked in the first two games of the series....

You don't really get that with LeBron because the Cavs absolutely have to have LeBrons points in order to even be competitive. Even if he's not scoring the team is way better if he in on the floor (both offensively and defensively). That's why it hurt so much yesterday when he picked up that 3rd foul.

Al n' Perk No Layups! · Post #20 » by **Al n' Perk No Layups!** » Tue May 13, 2008 11:24 pm

Kevin Garnott? Oh, you mean the guy who WON GAME 1 for us with his CLUTCH PERFORMANCE in the FOURTH QUARTER.

If you want someone to rag on, try Ray Allen who's been a complete no show the entire playoffs. If we didn't have him on the team bricking shots and playing terrible defence, I guarentee we would have won a few road games. Or blame Paul Pierce wasting posessions jacking up bad threes. Or blame Sam Cassel's awful road play, or Doc's dumb subbing patterns (Big Baby? Are you freaking serious?). Don't blame Garnett, who has shown up for every game and played well.