Boston Celtics Select JR Giddens at #30

jfs1000d · Post #41 » by **jfs1000d** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 2:57 am

Top need was an athletic wing. The atlanta series showed how we can be exposed. NO TA, that left Ray Allen, Paul PIerce and James Posey on the wing. That is 3 guys over the age of30 and not exactly in their athletic primes.

It's a good pick in that sense.We need a defender and future scorer at this spot. A big? Not going to be a factor.

LongTimeFan · Post #42 » by **LongTimeFan** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 2:59 am

After reading the draft express write up, it seems like a DA pick.

There's always something a bit wrong that gets other GMs to avoid the risk. Rondo couldn't shoot. Powe had knee issues. Baby was too fat. Gomes was not long enough to be an NBA power forward.

This guy has off court issues that have undermined his reputation. He's been stabbed in a night club. Wasn't Pierce stabbed in a niht club? He has team chenistry issues. Didn't Pierce have some issues with adjusting to a team. I know Bird did.

The kid has the size and apparently the talent. Maybe the Celtics can turn his attitude to the good side. It is a typical DA gamble. High payoff, low risk.

Post #43 » by **Spin Move** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:00 am

bove310 wrote:All of these things I remember and I didn't know who he was...now I do:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnLxGtRo ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaozBDoa ... re=related

He is like tony allen but not as good at D, makes poor decions better rebounder then his size would suggest, great dunker, lacks in the head. Never was a big fan of him at KU

Albin · Post #44 » by **Albin** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:00 am

After reading a bit, I remember this kid when he played at Kansas and from High School.. those years ago, I liked him.. but he fell off my radar when he left Kansas. He was a great talent in High School.

I think it's a *shrug* .. trust Danny, and we'll see.

We may be looking at doing a sign and trade with Tony, add somebody like Powe, Baby, or Scal and get a nice player in return.

GreenGrizz · Post #45 » by **GreenGrizz** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:00 am

If Ainge wants him. we should be happy. Walker = Gerald Green. CDR = Julius Hodge

Gant · Post #46 » by **Gant** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:01 am

Doc just said he's very athletic, has a huge wingspan, and they drafted him with the expectation that he'll compete for minutes this coming season.

ICanOutreboundWalter · Post #47 » by **ICanOutreboundWalter** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:01 am

Giddens has the athleticism to be a great defender and the length. IMO, he was at worst a good defender in his senior year, especially at the tail end.

And if you need to know, I'm a gambling degenerate, thats why I'm familiar with Giddens.

Rocky5000 · Post #48 » by **Rocky5000** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:01 am

Well after seeing his youtube highlights, maybe we'll have a dunk contest entrant next year at the very least.

Andrew McCeltic · Post #49 » by **Andrew McCeltic** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:02 am

I guess anyone you draft at 30 is going to have question marks. If it was attitude issues that have dissipated with time, sounds like a good roleplayer. Good defense, the 9 boards from a shooting guard is a special skill, and rebounding tends to transfer well between levels of play.

Rondo/Pruitt
Allen/Giddens
Pierce/Posey
Garnett/Powe/Scal
Perkins/Davis

SonicYouth34 · Post #50 » by **SonicYouth34** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:03 am

He's like a bigger version of Rondo, except a lesser defender. He fills up the stat sheet and like RR he's a great rebounder.

Post #51 » by **Spin Move** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:06 am

Well maybe he turns out to be a josh howard type, no outside shot coming out, good rebounder. I hope my instincts are wrong.

Rocky5000 · Post #52 » by **Rocky5000** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:06 am

Dude better learn how to shoot FTs. 59%.....OUCH!

EvadedHavoc · Post #53 » by **EvadedHavoc** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:06 am

Awesome pick!

He might be one of those "Holy **** why didnt we think of that" Picks if he can stay positive and not get into slobber knockers.

Barry Lird · Post #54 » by **Barry Lird** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:07 am

Big_Matt34 wrote:Giddens is a legit all american talent, at 6'5 he averaged 16.3/8.8/3.1/2.2 on 52% shooting while being a great defender....

Those numbers suggest a really well rounded player. I think he was POY in his conference too. That's greating rebounding at the guard position.

And did I mention he can throw it down? Check this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VWz4XvS ... re=related

Post #55 » by **sully00** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:07 am

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/02/ ... iddens.php

He went to KU to play for Williams. Self came in and he got stabbed. He transfered and the coach at UNM tried to make him the next Danny Granger and then scape goated the kid when it fell apart. Coach fired Alford in and turned him into an NBA player.

Doc was the one who said that Danny has liked him for a long time and he can really defend.

Ricky_is_god · Post #56 » by **Ricky_is_god** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:08 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOq7hvULlfY

That's the youtube clip you need to watch if you wanted Walker instead of Giddens.

I'll admit, I wanted and thought Walker was going to be the pick, but this kid is equal to him athletically, and is older and less of a project. I think he can be a good player for us next year. Just because he isn't the guy everyone expected doesn't mean he won't be good. I think he has the ability to be a good player in this league.

Celtsfan1980 · Post #57 » by **Celtsfan1980** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:11 am

I don't know a lot about him so I can't say much. It would have been interesting to see what Jordan could have done in Boston, but oh well.

DonBolivar · Post #58 » by **DonBolivar** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:12 am

Ricky_is_god wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOq7hvULlfY

That's the youtube clip you need to watch if you wanted Walker instead of Giddens.

Big deal. We've seen Kedrick Brown and Gerald Green do that, and now they're cleaning pools.

Ricky_is_god · Post #59 » by **Ricky_is_god** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:14 am

I understand dunking isnt everything but the best thing people saw in Walker was his athletic ability. Giddens is equal. He does everything else similar, is a better defender, and a more experienced player. I didn't mean to say that because he can dunk he was a good pick, even though it came across like that.

Post #60 » by **sully00** » Fri Jun 27, 2008 3:15 am

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/02/ ... iddens.php

He went to KU to play for Williams. Self came in and he got stabbed. He transfered and the coach at UNM tried to make him the next Danny Granger and then scape goated the kid when it fell apart. Coach fired Alford in and turned him into an NBA player.

Doc was the one who said that Danny has liked him for a long time and he can really defend.