Paul Pierce: "I'm the BEST player in the WORLD"

[meatball sub]

to whoever said posey had the best defense against kobe - wtf where you watching? ray allen was guarding kobe the most - he did the best job and then pierce did the second best job on kobe - posey more then pierce or allen let guys blow by him more - he's getting so overrated. a lot of ppl are forgetting just how great allen played on both sides of the ball in the finals and instead give posey the credit for the defense when posey averaged just around 20 minutes a game in the playoffs. this has just become another hate thread get over yourselves laker fans who have nothing better to do than diss a really talented player who beat you on one leg! in fact that whole team was tired and hurt and still could have swept your sorry asses! a lot of boston haters in the crowd? i don't blame ya - i'm a sad blue jays fan fyi - Pierce is the most important player on this team - ppl will debate about who is better btw kg or pp - but paul means more to that team and the distance btw kobe and paul really isn't that great so let it go kids

im not a lakers fan, im actually one of the biggest laker haters you will ever meet, but i hate the celtics more than i hate the lakers, and if you want to start talking about health during the finals, ur crazy because boston wasnt the team that was missing a 20/10, 7 footer in the middle. had the lakers been healthy than i guarantee that the lakers would have won the title.

Did you really just refer to Andrew Bynum as a 20/10 player or was Pau Gasol being on the court every game in the Finals a mirage?

[microfib4thewin]

If Deron Williams has a frontcourt that plays actual defense, they would be crushing everything that comes in their way, and this is coming from a Laker fan.

[sarah42]

to whoever said posey had the best defense against kobe - wtf where you watching? ray allen was guarding kobe the most - he did the best job and then pierce did the second best job on kobe - posey more then pierce or allen let guys blow by him more - he's getting so overrated. a lot of ppl are forgetting just how great allen played on both sides of the ball in the finals and instead give posey the credit for the defense when posey averaged just around 20 minutes a game in the playoffs. this has just become another hate thread get over yourselves laker fans who have nothing better to do than diss a really talented player who beat you on one leg! in fact that whole team was tired and hurt and still could have swept your sorry asses! a lot of boston haters in the crowd? i don't blame ya - i'm a sad blue jays fan fyi - Pierce is the most important player on this team - ppl will debate about who is better btw kg or pp - but paul means more to that team and the distance btw kobe and paul really isn't that great so let it go kids

im not a lakers fan, im actually one of the biggest laker haters you will ever meet, but i hate the celtics more than i hate the lakers, and if you want to start talking about health during the finals, ur crazy because boston wasnt the team that was missing a 20/10, 7 footer in the middle. had the lakers been healthy than i guarantee that the lakers would have won the title.

lol the reason why you are a hater is what? hit your head on the wall? what did drew do during the regular season against boston to make you think he wold dominate the tough celtics? bynum alone can't teach his teammates to defend! the c's were banged up - rondo with a bad ankle - perk had surgery on his shoulder after the finals - ray had a sick child - pp had a sprained mcl and i doubt kg had slept in a month plus they had played 5 ore games than the lakers. give props to the better team you sore loser!

[PP34RA10]

If Deron Williams has a frontcourt that plays actual defense, they would be crushing everything that comes in their way, and this is coming from a Laker fan.

hes still playing with alot of great talent,

carlos boozer, andrei kirlenko, mehmet okur, and jerry sloan is a great coach

[BiggieSmalls]

[quote="PP34RA10"]
The facts are this

steve nash has played with - Dirk Nowitzki,Prime Micheal Finley,Antawn Jamison,Atoine Walker,Joe Johnson,Amare Stoudamire,Shawn Marion,Barbosa,Boris Diaw,Raja Bell prior to 2007-2008 season

Paul Pierce - Antoine Walker, Ricky Davis,Raef Lafrentz,Delonte West,Kenny Anderson,Wally Szerbiak,Vin Baker,Kedrick Brown,Gerald Green,Young Al jefferson. prior to 2007-2008

and Steve nash with all that talent to work with as a PG, he has failed to make the finals.

Pierce has been to the confrence finals twice and won the nba finals.

Pierce career statistics are some of the best ever in the league, currently he is like the 22 all time scoring average. and he is a winner.

Deron what has he done to be better then pierce???[/quote]

First off, pierce is not a winner, he never has been till this year and its not hard to transform to a winner when you add 2 HOF to your lineup, and every vet flocks to your team. pierce had nothing to do with the turnaround.

and secondly, derron williams has his strengths and weaknesses as does pierce but if you want to know what he really does better than pierce, he knows how to make his teammates better. like a chris paul, or tim duncan, or kobe bryant this season or lebron james. pierce doesnt know how to make his teammates better, he needs someone to make him look good, which he proved this year, by getting allen and garnott now all the sudden people think hes the greatest.

[PP34RA10]

The facts are this

steve nash has played with - Dirk Nowitzki,Prime Micheal Finley,Antawn Jamison,Atoine Walker,Joe Johnson,Amare Stoudamire,Shawn Marion,Barbosa,Boris Diaw,Raja Bell prior to 2007-2008 season

Paul Pierce - Antoine Walker, Ricky Davis,Raef Lafrentz,Delonte West,Kenny Anderson,Wally Szerbiak,Vin Baker,Kedrick Brown,Gerald Green,Young Al jefferson. prior to 2007-2008

and Steve nash with all that talent to work with as a PG, he has failed to make the finals.

Pierce has been to the confrence finals twice and won the nba finals.

Pierce career statistics are some of the best ever in the league, currently he is like the 22 all time scoring average. and he is a winner.

Deron what has he done to be better then pierce???[/quote]

First off, pierce is not a winner, he never has been till this year and its not hard to transform to a winner when you add 2 HOF to your lineup, and every vet flocks to your team. pierce had nothing to do with the turnaround.

and secondly, derron williams has his strengths and weaknesses as does pierce but if you want to know what he really does better than pierce, he knows how to make his teammates better. like a chris paul, or tim duncan, or kobe bryant this season or lebron james. pierce doesnt know how to make his teammates better, he needs someone to make him look good, which he proved this year, by getting allen and garnott now all the sudden people think hes the greatest.

ok, ur wrong

Pierce has played with garbage, unlike the players listed here, id take boozer and kirlenko over antione walker,

forget about nash , hes played with dream teams... and hasnt won a thing.

Pierce played with the worst rosters assembled, so how can u fault pierce for that, last year pierce missed 40 games or so do to injury and the team lost 18 in a row, when he comes back they win.

Pierce has been farther in the playoffs with antioine freaken walker a pf who shot less the 40 % from the field.

the celtics werent supposed to win shi t this year, but because people underate pierce they feel that way. pierce is the most underate player ever

[microfib4thewin]

If Deron Williams has a frontcourt that plays actual defense, they would be crushing everything that comes in their way, and this is coming from a Laker fan.

hes still playing with alot of great talent,

carlos boozer, andrei kirlenko, mehmet okur, and jerry sloan is a great coach

Boozer and Okur are offensive talents that cannot rotate on help defense and does not match up against forwards that are either bigger or faster than them. Now, as a Boston fan, which do you think is more important, being the best offensive player or being a defensive player that can cement team defense?

[greenbeans]

so just because Williams and Paul came to loaded teams and it took Pierce a decade to get one theyre better?? what a great basketball mind you are.

[PP34RA10]

If Deron Williams has a frontcourt that plays actual defense, they would be crushing everything that comes in their way, and this is coming from a Laker fan.

hes still playing with alot of great talent,

carlos boozer, andrei kirlenko, mehmet okur, and jerry sloan is a great coach

Boozer and Okur are offensive talents that cannot rotate on help defense and does not match up against forwards that are either bigger or faster than them. Now, as a Boston fan, which do you think is more important, being the best offensive player or being a defensive player that can cement team defense?

KG is better then boozer, im not saying that

still the utah roster is much more complete then the celtics roster. and the coach disparity also is big

[sarah42]

yeah so, kobe lit allen up for like 15 consecutive points in like game 3 or 4 when allen was on him

pp clearly shut kobe down when he was on him, kobe was like 10-40 when pp was on him

no the team shut him down - i recongise paul did a great job the times he was on him - but the majority of the time ray allen did the dirty work and was damn great at it! paul though did the best job on lebron thats for sure. there was an article where danny stated the order of defense was allen paul and then posey in terms of efficiency so ainge is giving allen his due - paul has his trophy so all is good! eye of the beholder i guess - but what we can agree on is both allen and piere did a better job than pose - pose is a great roleplayer

[PP34RA10]

Lets see

Statistically they are very similar throughout there career

Pierce is a 44.2 % shooter who averages 23.2 ppg on 17 shots per game.

Bryant is a 45 % shooter who averages 25 ppg on 19 shots per game.

they are both winners, but during there careers Bryant has played with much better players and for much better coaches then pierce throught the duration of there careers.

Pierce is cleary one of the most underated players this decade in the nba , possibly in all of sports.

Now head to head Kobe vs pierce throughout there careers

13 games head to head averages

kobe bryant 26.8 ppg on 39 percent shooting 110 for 278
Paul pierce 26.8 ppg on 45 percent shooting 101 for 223

and the head to head doesnt inclube the nba finals

[Don Draper]

Some of these replies are hilarious

1) Kobe is the best player in the NBA. Lebron isn't even close. Once Lebron get consistent range from outside of 5 feets and learns not to travel (this is moot since the refs don't call it anyways). I would actually put Garnett ahead of Lebron because his defensive presence is insane.

2) Paul Pierce outplayed Kobe Bryant in the Finals and it wasn't even close. All you stat whores need to go back and watch the series. Granted Pierce was being guarded by Vlad (which made no sense) and Kobe was up against one of the best defenses of all-time, but he still owned Kobe. Esp when it mattered.

3) Paul Pierce is not even the best player on his team. But if we compare him to guards and swingmen he is in the top 10.

4) He was obviously joking and he won a ring and a Finals MVP so he has all the right to say this.

[PP34RA10]

yeah so, kobe lit allen up for like 15 consecutive points in like game 3 or 4 when allen was on him

pp clearly shut kobe down when he was on him, kobe was like 10-40 when pp was on him

no the team shut him down - i recongise paul did a great job the times he was on him - but the majority of the time ray allen did the dirty work and was damn great at it! paul though did the best job on lebron thats for sure. there was an article where danny stated the order of defense was allen paul and then posey in terms of efficiency so ainge is giving allen his due - paul has his trophy so all is good! eye of the beholder i guess - but what we can agree on is both allen and piere did a better job than pose - pose is a great roleplayer

u are wrong girllllllll..

ainge said Pierce was clearly the number 1 , allen 2 then posey

also joe johnson shreded ray allen up in round 1

pierce took kobe in the second half of game 4 when kobe was light allen up in the first half and bryant had like 10 points on like 4-16 shooting in the 2nd half

[Prophet_C]

Some of these replies are hilarious

1) Kobe is the best player in the NBA. Lebron isn't even close. Once Lebron get consistent range from outside of 5 feets and learns not to travel (this is moot since the refs don't call it anyways). I would actually put Garnett ahead of Lebron because his defensive presence is insane.

2) Paul Pierce outplayed Kobe Bryant in the Finals and it wasn't even close. All you stat whores need to go back and watch the series. Granted Pierce was being guarded by Vlad (which made no sense) and Kobe was up against one of the best defenses of all-time, but he still owned Kobe. Esp when it mattered.

3) Paul Pierce is not even the best player on his team. But if we compare him to guards and swingmen he is in the top 10.

4) He was obviously joking and he won a ring and a Finals MVP so he has all the right to say this.

Nice post

[BiggieSmalls]

to whoever said posey had the best defense against kobe - wtf where you watching? ray allen was guarding kobe the most - he did the best job and then pierce did the second best job on kobe - posey more then pierce or allen let guys blow by him more - he's getting so overrated. a lot of ppl are forgetting just how great allen played on both sides of the ball in the finals and instead give posey the credit for the defense when posey averaged just around 20 minutes a game in the playoffs. this has just become another hate thread get over yourselves laker fans who have nothing better to do than diss a really talented player who beat you on one leg! in fact that whole team was tired and hurt and still could have swept your sorry asses! a lot of boston haters in the crowd? i don't blame ya - i'm a sad blue jays fan fyi - Pierce is the most important player on this team - ppl will debate about who is better btw kg or pp - but paul means more to that team and the distance btw kobe and paul really isn't that great so let it go kids

im not a lakers fan, im actually one of the biggest laker haters you will ever meet, but i hate the celtics more than i hate the lakers, and if you want to start talking about health during the finals, ur crazy because boston wasnt the team that was missing a 20/10, 7 footer in the middle. had the lakers been healthy than i guarantee that the lakers would have won the title.

lol the reason why you are a hater is what? hit your head on the wall? what did drew do during the regular season against boston to make you think he wold dominate the tough celtics? bynum alone can't teach his teammates to defend! the c's were banged up - rondo with a bad ankle - perk had surgery on his shoulder after the finals - ray had a sick child - pp had a sprained mcl and i doubt kg had slept in a month plus they had played 5 ore games than the lakers. give props to the better team you sore loser!

I will never give the celtics credit for what they did this year..i hate the way they put there team together, ANYBODY can go out and unload there roster for a one year run at glory. it takes no skill or talent by a front office to assemble the team they did. another reason is because when watching the celtics, all season long they got all the calls against everybody, and kg is one of the dirtiest players in the game, his actions on the court are looked poorly upon by many players, and he never gets in any kind of trouble for screaming in players faces or taunting so hard, that it makes you wonder if the guy knows what it means to have some class, he whines and pouts like a little b***h, and thinks he deserves to get every call, but what has he done in his career? oh yea hes never been a winner, and just like PP he doesnt know how to make his teammates better. so he has done nothing till this year. and if the lakers had been healthy than the lakers would be champs, pains me to say it but if i have to be unbiased, than if im choosing between a healthy boston or healthy LA im goin to with LA to win a title.

[sarah42]

yeah so, kobe lit allen up for like 15 consecutive points in like game 3 or 4 when allen was on him

pp clearly shut kobe down when he was on him, kobe was like 10-40 when pp was on him

no the team shut him down - i recongise paul did a great job the times he was on him - but the majority of the time ray allen did the dirty work and was damn great at it! paul though did the best job on lebron thats for sure. there was an article where danny stated the order of defense was allen paul and then posey in terms of efficiency so ainge is giving allen his due - paul has his trophy so all is good! eye of the beholder i guess - but what we can agree on is both allen and piere did a better job than pose - pose is a great roleplayer

u are wrong girllllllll..

ainge said Pierce was clearly the number 1 , allen 2 then posey

also joe johnson shreded ray allen up in round 1

pierce took kobe in the second half of game 4 when kobe was light allen up in the first half and bryant had like 10 points on like 4-16 shooting in the 2nd half

when did that happen? i doubt kob lit hi up for 30. do you have link to the article - i thought ainge said allen - paul - pose in terms of efficiency - ray did do a great job on kobe though - lets not deny that. i'm sorry but the whole team underachieved against the hawks because everyone was fouling way too much - the help defense sucked and everyone was a step slow on defense - it wasn't all on ray allen's shoulder - plus pp didn't show up in that series offensively - its a pointless argument because by the time the finals rolled around the boston defense was back to normal

[HarlemHeat37]

I've never liked Pierce, but let's chill out a bit..

what's wrong with thinking you're the best? the guy just came off winning a title and a finals MVP, there's no reason he shouldn't have all the confidence in the world..he just **** on Kobe in the finals(although Kobe always plays poorly in the finals) and he won a showdown with The King Lebron James in a game 7, where he scored 40+ points..

there's no reason he shouldn't have confidence in himself..

Pierce is a top 10 player IMO..look at the playoffs he just had, with his improved defense too..

[microfib4thewin]

"they are both winners, but during there careers Bryant has played with much better players and for much better coaches then pierce throught the duration of there careers."

Hold it, are you actually one of those people who think Phil Jackson is a good coach even when he isn't surrounded by allstars and proven players? I don't know if you are just changing your opinion on Phil in order to support your claim on Pierce, and what he does with a mediocre team is debatable, but Kobe did not have a MUCH better supporting cast. There's Odom who's averaged 16/10, but has never felt comfortable with the triangle, everyone else was as replacable as the Boston roster of old. I can't even tell who the third best player is on the 06-07 teams because they were either average or just plain horrible. Caron Butler was an above average player, but he was already gone when the Lakers got back into the playoffs.

For any champion caliber team, you need a frontcourt that plays defense, it doesn't matter how well they can score, if they can't D up in any way or form they are not going anywhere. If Jazz has a defense that is close to the level of the Rockets Deron would be leading his team to several titles.

[Indy07]

PP34 my god take your blinders off and take an objective, non (Please Use More Appropriate Word) look at what you are arguing. Even before KG and Allen arrived, PPierce did have Al jefferson and Antoine Walker before Al. Everybody rips on Walker for being a chucker now but look at his stats for his 3 year stint in Boston from 2000-03. He averaged around 22 and 8.

Al wasn't exactly a scrub. He was arguably as good as the laker's 2nd best player at that time, Lamar Odom. You know what Kobe did anyways? Make the playoffs. What did the Celtics do? Did you conveniently forget their blatant tank job? Do you think Kobe would tank? Tell me that. The same Kobe who has played with a torn shooting finger compared to the guy who had to get melodramatically carried off the court to return minutes later from an arguably feigned injury . You are arguing that the guy who scored 81 points in a game is inferior to Paul Pierce. The only legitimate argument you can make for Pierce is that he plays up to his competition. Thats it.

Think about that. And those 5 people you listed as best in the NBA and the people you wouldn't take over Paul Pierce? You listed Dwight Howard. Seriously. The best center in the league. That right there eliminates any credibility your logic may have carried. To even have this discussion is absolutely (Please Use More Appropriate Word). There isn't really a good argument for Pierce and thats that.

[sarah42]

I will never give the celtics credit for what they did this year..i hate the way they put there team together, ANYBODY can go out and unload there roster for a one year run at glory. it takes no skill or talent by a front office to assemble the team they did. another reason is because when watching the celtics, all season long they got all the calls against everybody, and kg is one of the dirtiest players in the game, his actions on the court are looked poorly upon by many players, and he never gets in any kind of trouble for screaming in players faces or taunting so hard, that it makes you wonder if the guy knows what it means to have some class, he whines and pouts like a little b***h, and thinks he deserves to get every call, but what has he done in his career? oh yea hes never been a winner, and just like PP he doesnt know how to make his teammates better. so he has done nothing till this year. and if the lakers had been healthy than the lakers would be champs, pains me to say it but if i have to be unbiased, than if im choosing between a healthy boston or healthy LA im goin to with LA to win a title.

what an asinine post! it doesn't take talent do do what they did? no team has ever had that kind of turnaround - and boston gets all the calls? really - how do you explain the hawks, lebrons, pistons and then the lakers getting to the foul line more? kg gets all the calls? really? he's dirty too? lol he barely get to the foul line but okay you delusional kid - btw that boston team was banged up so the healthy part is just stupid. btw - almost every team that wins it all has made big trades or big free agent singings - so why diss boston for it? you hate just for the sake of hate! make a real point first!