I hate this season (formerly Tapscott/Vets thread)
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I hate this season (formerly Tapscott/Vets thread)
Wizards were up 40-30. Javale and Blatche were both on fire. Dallas had no answers.
Tapscott did!
He took out McGee, who was 3-3 and +8, and of whom the Dallas announcers were raving about. Taps subbed in Jamison.
Result: Immediate momentum shift to Dallas! By the half the score was 51-51 and Dallas had gone on a 21-10 run. NO WAY the Wizards win the game using their smaller, shotjacking veterans. Washington immediately lost the rebounding advantage. They stopped playing team ball. They gave up dunks.
Tank job preserved by one genius of a coach. In addition to that, he made sure Antawn got his minutes.
Brilliant!
Tapscott did!
He took out McGee, who was 3-3 and +8, and of whom the Dallas announcers were raving about. Taps subbed in Jamison.
Result: Immediate momentum shift to Dallas! By the half the score was 51-51 and Dallas had gone on a 21-10 run. NO WAY the Wizards win the game using their smaller, shotjacking veterans. Washington immediately lost the rebounding advantage. They stopped playing team ball. They gave up dunks.
Tank job preserved by one genius of a coach. In addition to that, he made sure Antawn got his minutes.
Brilliant!
Bye bye Beal.
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I have seen enough of this team to say this: Jamison and Butler take a bunch of shots, play poor defense, and have the undying support of a lackey, loser of a coach.
-McGee and Pecherov are mistreated in terms of minutes. Tapscott MUST have a bias against both.
-McGuire is playing well but playing too many minutes.
-Songaila's hitting shots but just stealing minutes McGee, Pecherov, and Blatche SHOULD BE getting.
The reason this team is TERRIBLE is close-mindedness and poor coaching that allows jumpshooting veterans to get minutes and play bad defense, and at the same time blame young players for the demise of the team.
I've been a fan of the Washington basketball team for 35 years.
I have NEVER seen so much talent misused and underperform on such a consistent basis.
When Ed Tapscott took Javale McGee out of a game where he and Blatche were playing SPECTACULAR basketball, building on a 10-pt lead, that made me ANGRY!
Jamison turned the ball over, committed bad fouls, took contested three but stayed in the game.
Tapscott reflexively yanked McGee out of the game a couple more times.
I WANT TAPSCOTT FIRED! Eddie Jordan in all his years didn't piss me off as much as this fool has.
-McGee and Pecherov are mistreated in terms of minutes. Tapscott MUST have a bias against both.
-McGuire is playing well but playing too many minutes.
-Songaila's hitting shots but just stealing minutes McGee, Pecherov, and Blatche SHOULD BE getting.
The reason this team is TERRIBLE is close-mindedness and poor coaching that allows jumpshooting veterans to get minutes and play bad defense, and at the same time blame young players for the demise of the team.
I've been a fan of the Washington basketball team for 35 years.
I have NEVER seen so much talent misused and underperform on such a consistent basis.
When Ed Tapscott took Javale McGee out of a game where he and Blatche were playing SPECTACULAR basketball, building on a 10-pt lead, that made me ANGRY!
Jamison turned the ball over, committed bad fouls, took contested three but stayed in the game.
Tapscott reflexively yanked McGee out of the game a couple more times.
I WANT TAPSCOTT FIRED! Eddie Jordan in all his years didn't piss me off as much as this fool has.
Bye bye Beal.
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I hear ya CCJ, I never thought it would be possible to hate a coach more than EJ, but Tap tops him easily; you just want to pull your hair out or throw stuff at the TV. WTF is he thinking?
Ernie has to be held accountable for allowing this kind of crap with EJ, and now it's happening with Tap. The "stars" must get their minutes no-matter what.
Our next coach must not afraid to sit vets if it is warranted.
Ernie has to be held accountable for allowing this kind of crap with EJ, and now it's happening with Tap. The "stars" must get their minutes no-matter what.
Our next coach must not afraid to sit vets if it is warranted.
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Our next coach has to have the balls to bench Jamison and Butler if they're not playing defense. Jamison and Butler with 5 and 7 turnovers... F*ck them!!! We can't at least tank right...
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The best thing the Wizards could do would be to fire Tapscott, have Ernie coach the damned team himself, and for him to play McGee big minutes.
On top of that, EG drafted Pecherov and Young, who are not improving one bit. I want Ernie to be held 100% accountable for their lack of development.
Ernie brought in Ayers for defense and all I see is the Wizards give up the corner three again and again. They had three defensive three seconds calls against Dallas, which has only the great Brandon Bass as a post up threat. Typically, Wiz gave up a ton of open threes.
Damn I'm sorry I watched the Dallas game. I've been skipping most of them, lately.
Tonight I feel that Grunfeld, for screwing up the cap and for putting this jackass Tapscott in charge of ruining the development of young players, needs to be held accountable.
Fire Tapscott ... and Grunfeld if this crap doesn't improve.
IDIOT Tapscott played Jamison and Butler again 40 minutes plus, with Butler supposedly coming off an injury.
I hate being a fan of this sorry assed team!
On top of that, EG drafted Pecherov and Young, who are not improving one bit. I want Ernie to be held 100% accountable for their lack of development.
Ernie brought in Ayers for defense and all I see is the Wizards give up the corner three again and again. They had three defensive three seconds calls against Dallas, which has only the great Brandon Bass as a post up threat. Typically, Wiz gave up a ton of open threes.
Damn I'm sorry I watched the Dallas game. I've been skipping most of them, lately.
Tonight I feel that Grunfeld, for screwing up the cap and for putting this jackass Tapscott in charge of ruining the development of young players, needs to be held accountable.
Fire Tapscott ... and Grunfeld if this crap doesn't improve.
IDIOT Tapscott played Jamison and Butler again 40 minutes plus, with Butler supposedly coming off an injury.
I hate being a fan of this sorry assed team!
Bye bye Beal.
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Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:I have seen enough of this team to say this: Jamison and Butler take a bunch of shots, play poor defense, and have the undying support of a lackey, loser of a coach.
-McGee and Pecherov are mistreated in terms of minutes. Tapscott MUST have a bias against both.
-McGuire is playing well but playing too many minutes.
-Songaila's hitting shots but just stealing minutes McGee, Pecherov, and Blatche SHOULD BE getting.
The reason this team is TERRIBLE is close-mindedness and poor coaching that allows jumpshooting veterans to get minutes and play bad defense, and at the same time blame young players for the demise of the team.
I've been a fan of the Washington basketball team for 35 years.
I have NEVER seen so much talent misused and underperform on such a consistent basis.
When Ed Tapscott took Javale McGee out of a game where he and Blatche were playing SPECTACULAR basketball, building on a 10-pt lead, that made me ANGRY!
Jamison turned the ball over, committed bad fouls, took contested three but stayed in the game.
Tapscott reflexively yanked McGee out of the game a couple more times.
I WANT TAPSCOTT FIRED! Eddie Jordan in all his years didn't piss me off as much as this fool has.
EFJ pissed me off on a nightly basis just like this. He would coach 5-10 good games a year. EFJ pissed me off way more then this. But tonight, I couldn't really tell the difference between them. But I wasn't nearly as pissed as I would be when EFJ would do stupid crap with more talented rosters. Not playing Haywood was way more frustrating then him not playing McGee.
One thing that makes me less pissed is I don't have the feeling like we are stuck with Tapps for the next 5 years because he is the owners hand picked coach. Tapps is the interim coach of the most injured team of the 08/09 season.
I was frustrated tonight and Tapps did blow it but lets not get carried away and say this is as frustrating as having EFJ coaching.
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only 19 more games to tank and we are going hardcore
we better get a top 3 pick ... and use it very wisely .. because we are traumatizing our youngsters over this
we better get a top 3 pick ... and use it very wisely .. because we are traumatizing our youngsters over this
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eltacoman wrote:only 19 more games to tank and we are going hardcore
we better get a top 3 pick ... and use it very wisely .. because we are traumatizing our youngsters over this
You'll are to funny. That is hardly true. Come on get a grip people.
Who is traumatized ?
DMAC - hardly. He is happy a pig in sht.
Crit - hardly. He has found a team that will likely keep him for at least 3 years likely longer.
Blatche - no way. He couldn't be happier that EFJ is gone.
NY ? He is the only won I would say is getting messed up but I think N1on5 is just a head case regardless of who is coaching him. EFJ had a hard time with him also. N1on5 is a head scratcher.
OP - He never played anyway. Funny thing is he played a little the other game and looked pretty solid. Can you believe his minutes actually went down from last year on a team which was the most injured team in the league. Mirror meet OP.. OP meet mirror. You'll get to know each other. For God sake he is a 7-0 ft center and we kind of needed one of those all year. That said, his PER is up to 13.13 from 9.65 last year but his FG % is still only .381. Kind of crappy for a center. And if he thinks he is a 3 pt specialist he is going to have to do better then .310
McGee is fine. He knows he is a rookie. I'm sure he wants to play more but he looks like he is taking the time to improve his game and he knows he will be here a while. He has improved this year.
So lets not get carried away. As soon as this season is over, it will be over. I'm certain DMAC, Crit and McGee will get to work on their games. I hope Blatche will. Not sure what NY can do in this off season other then work on spot shooting by finding some shoes with glue on the bottom and I have no idea what OP will do to earn minutes. At least he looks like Stewie. Is that enough to keep him around? He will likely be deactivated once everyone is healthy. Maybe by 2010/11 he can be something.
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Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:Wizards were up 40-30. Javale and Blatche were both on fire. Dallas had no answers.
Tapscott did!
He took out McGee, who was 3-3 and +8, and of whom the Dallas announcers were raving about. Taps subbed in Jamison.
Result: Immediate momentum shift to Dallas! By the half the score was 51-51 and Dallas had gone on a 21-10 run. NO WAY the Wizards win the game using their smaller, shotjacking veterans. Washington immediately lost the rebounding advantage. They stopped playing team ball. They gave up dunks.
Yeah, I noticed that too. What makes it even worse is that any day now we're going to have yet another media quote by Jamison or Butler or Tapscott about how frustrating it is that the young players are so inconsistent.
WHY SHOULD THEY CARE ABOUT BEING CONSISTENT WHEN THEY AREN'T GOING TO GET MINUTES EITHER WAY?!?!?!
Unfortunately the shortsightedness of this team is once again destroying the future.
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I hate Tap as our coach,why grind down our vets? Season was over before it started, build the second team. I'm so pissed at Pollin and EG for letting this go on.
Fire TAP.
Fire TAP.
FINAL UPDATE
With full military honors, Master Sgt. James W Holt was laid to rest at Arlington National Cemetery today. May 15
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With full military honors, Master Sgt. James W Holt was laid to rest at Arlington National Cemetery today. May 15
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I don't know if the young players are actually getting traumatized by this season. . .but I know I am totally traumatized. I don't even watch the first 8 minutes of quarters 1 and 3 anymore because I just don't want to see what passes for a starting unit.
I will say that the youngsters are at least beginning to see more minutes now. But I want to see McGee's, Young, and Pech get more consistent minutes and scale way back the minutes Butler and Jamison get. There is simply no good reason to play them more than tune-up minutes the rest of the season.
I will say that the youngsters are at least beginning to see more minutes now. But I want to see McGee's, Young, and Pech get more consistent minutes and scale way back the minutes Butler and Jamison get. There is simply no good reason to play them more than tune-up minutes the rest of the season.
montestewart wrote:Players really should wait until they're rookie coaches to become GMs.
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We need to get Susan O'Malley back in here.
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We need to get at least 2 of the "Big 3" out of town ASAP.
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BigA wrote:We need to get Susan O'Malley back in here.
She only returns if Big Wes returns... as GM.
I think we're more traumatized from watching them than the players are. I know I am.
I would like to see Pech get some time - since there's really not much point in playing Song and in playing Jamison 40 minutes a game. EG committed to keeping him next season, so you might as well try to fit him in the role Song is playing. He's looked bad, but they can't expect him to play well when he's given so little and sporadic PT. You should be able to find a role for a 6'11 guy with 3 point range who can rebound. How much worse than Song and Jamison can his defense be?
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What I find Ironic is that Tapscott was originally the Director of Player Development, but now that he has a chance to develop them in the game he wont play them. The most puzzling of all is Opec, because I hear he is a gym rat and works very hard. At what point does that translate into minutes. At this point NY1, DMAC, Javaris, Blatche, McGhee, and Opec should be logging a lot of minutes while AJ, CB, and DSong should have their minutes limited. It appears that our management does not have a clue as to what to do. I could actually tolerate watching them lose if the Young Guns were playing. What we are doing now is unwatchable.
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So this is what torches and pitchforks look like on the web...
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AAEXPRESS wrote:What I find Ironic is that Tapscott was originally the Director of Player Development, but now that he has a chance to develop them in the game he wont play them. The most puzzling of all is Opec, because I hear he is a gym rat and works very hard. At what point does that translate into minutes. At this point NY1, DMAC, Javaris, Blatche, McGhee, and Opec should be logging a lot of minutes while AJ, CB, and DSong should have their minutes limited. It appears that our management does not have a clue as to what to do. I could actually tolerate watching them lose if the Young Guns were playing. What we are doing now is unwatchable.
+1
It would be a joy to watch this team if they allowed Jamison and Butler to shut it down the last 20 or so games, and for Songaila to play about 15 minutes a game in a mentor role to Pecherov especially. I'm convinced this team would be JUST AS GOOD with Darius or Pecherov at PF than they are with Antawn forcing shots and Caron playing hurt/disheartened at times.
(By just as good, I mean the team's no worse than the .250 or .300 win rate team it is. So what if they lose? More ping pong balls).
Let Young and Blatche play SF. Let McGee and Blatche play C. Guarantee the team plays BETTER basketball without Jamison or Butler at this point because both guys stop the ball and force shots. Each thinks he's an all star and neither plays good defense.
The young guys would be a joy to watch WITHOUT Tapscott coaching them down.
Bye bye Beal.
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I gave up on this season after the vets were being run into the ground after the trade dead line.
The only thing that will salvage this year is if we get the #1 pick and Blake Griffin. Otherwise this season was one to forget (minus the EJ firing, that was a glorious day).
and btw a **** you to the person whose brilliant idea it is not give heavy minutes to the younger players.
The only thing that will salvage this year is if we get the #1 pick and Blake Griffin. Otherwise this season was one to forget (minus the EJ firing, that was a glorious day).
and btw a **** you to the person whose brilliant idea it is not give heavy minutes to the younger players.
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AAEXPRESS wrote:What I find Ironic is that Tapscott was originally the Director of Player Development, but now that he has a chance to develop them in the game he wont play them. The most puzzling of all is Opec, because I hear he is a gym rat and works very hard. At what point does that translate into minutes. At this point NY1, DMAC, Javaris, Blatche, McGhee, and Opec should be logging a lot of minutes while AJ, CB, and DSong should have their minutes limited. It appears that our management does not have a clue as to what to do. I could actually tolerate watching them lose if the Young Guns were playing. What we are doing now is unwatchable.
They're so worried about "protecting" the young players instead of giving them responsibility and letting them develop... They might as well put them in condoms out there.
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Ruzious wrote:AAEXPRESS wrote:What I find Ironic is that Tapscott was originally the Director of Player Development, but now that he has a chance to develop them in the game he wont play them. The most puzzling of all is Opec, because I hear he is a gym rat and works very hard. At what point does that translate into minutes. At this point NY1, DMAC, Javaris, Blatche, McGhee, and Opec should be logging a lot of minutes while AJ, CB, and DSong should have their minutes limited. It appears that our management does not have a clue as to what to do. I could actually tolerate watching them lose if the Young Guns were playing. What we are doing now is unwatchable.
They're so worried about "protecting" the young players instead of giving them responsibility and letting them develop... They might as well put them in condoms out there.
We all know that, with young players, you have to live with their mistakes for a while and hope they play through them. The Wiz front office and coaches are idiots. It's not like we are in contention a playoff spot. These games are meaningless record-wise so how in the world do they justify protecting them. Just let them play and live with their errors.