Discussing Potential Coaches Thread

Post #261 » by **miller31time** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 2:59 am

I feel bad for Profit, in the same sense I felt bad for Doctor Manhattan in "The Watchmen". It must be awfully lonely knowing you're a god among mere humans.

lupin · Post #262 » by **lupin** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 12:38 pm

What would Laron Profit do if he was here right now? He'd make a plan and he'd follow through. That's what Laron Profit'd do.

Laron! Shoot! Laron! Fight!

When Laron Profit was in the NCAAs shooting for the championship, he did two slamdunks and a triple pointer while wearing a blindfold.

When Laron Profit was in the Alps fighting grizzly bears, he used his magical fire-breath and saved the maidens, fair.
Laron! S-s-shoot! Laron! Live!

So what would Laron Profit'd do if he was here today? I'm sure he'd kick an arse or two. That's what Laron Profit'd do.

Laron! Shoot! Laron! Live!

When Laron Profit traveled through time to the year 3010, he fought the evil robot king and saved us all agian.

When Laron Profit built the pyramids, he beat up Kounlah Khan! Cause Laron Profit doesn't take crap from an-y-bo-dy!

[Man In Back:]
No! Laron! Those chicken wings are really spicy! Don't eat those!
[Singers:]
I've never seen a man eat so many chicken wings. I've never seen a man eat so many chicken wings. I've never seen a man eat so many chicken wings.
[man:]
AAAHHHH! I've never seen a man eat so many chicken wings! AAAHHHH! I've never seen a man EAT SO MANY CHICKEN WINGS!! AAAHHHH!! I'VE NEVER SEEN A MAN EAT SO MANY CHICKEN WINGS!!! AAAHHHH!!! I'VE NEVER SEEN A MAN EAT SO MANY CHICKEN WINGS!!!!

Laron! Shoot! Laron! Fight!

Laron Profit-o was born on the planet of Krynuk. He came to Earth to save us all from borans and unstuck. Hideedodee!

Hideeday! Laron Profit's here. So round up all your lasses and tell 'em they have no fears. Say, "Come over here my honey, and come and I'll take off my pants. and I'm gonna make dirty love to you, cause that's what Laron Profit'd do."

Causethat's what Laron Profit'd DO!

Induveca · Post #263 » by **Induveca** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 6:16 pm

Alonzo Mourning supposedly wants to coach..............

That guy wouldn't allow his players to not play defense. Actually he might end up punching them, which could result in a disaster. I think he could be a great coach at some point in the future.

That being said, I'm still sticking with Laimbeer. Same mentality, older, and a proven coach in the WNBA. But I do think Mourning could be a solid coach in 5 years or so.

fishercob · Post #264 » by **fishercob** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 6:26 pm

Induveca wrote:
That being said, I'm still sticking with Laimbeer. Same mentality, older, and a proven coach in the WNBA. But I do think Mourning could be a solid coach in 5 years or so.

I don't think Laimbeer's success in the WNBA means much. I don't say that to degrade women's basketball, i say it because coaching men and women is entirely different. I cannot think of a single coach who went from coaching women successfully to coaching me successfully (or vice versa, FWIW).

Laimbeer might be the right guy to lead USA Basketball's women's team in the future, but I wouldn't hire him until he established a track record of success coaching professional men.

Post #265 » by **Ruzious** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 6:46 pm

What about Jeff Ruland? Laimbeer might have been a good cheap shot artist, but let's be honest - he was a wuss on offense - just good for 18 foot jump shots. Jeff Ruland was a tough SOB big who played the right way - owning the paint - and that was when there wasn't any defensive 3 seconds rule. Once he got the ball inside, he was going to score. Besides that, he's built up a nice resume - head coach at his school - Iona - for a while, head coach for an NBADL team, and now an assistant for the 6ers. And he was my favorite Bullet when they traded him for Moooooses and Catledge. Sign him up, and get him the best young defensive assistant/guru money can buy.

Induveca · Post #266 » by **Induveca** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 7:27 pm

Ruzious wrote:What about Jeff Ruland? Laimbeer might have been a good cheap shot artist, but let's be honest - he was a wuss on offense - just good for 18 foot jump shots. Jeff Ruland was a tough SOB big who played the right way - owning the paint - and that was when there wasn't any defensive 3 seconds rule. Once he got the ball inside, he was going to score. Besides that, he's built up a nice resume - head coach at his school - Iona - for a while, head coach for an NBADL team, and now an assistant for the 6ers. And he was my favorite Bullet when they traded him for Moooooses and Catledge. Sign him up, and get him the best young defensive assistant/guru money can buy.

I wouldn't hire anyone who has a past with the franchise.........just the way Abe used to run the Bullets probably scarred him for life. Seriously, I would want someone connected with a franchise where success was demanded, and with ZERO direct knowledge of Abe Pollin.

Post #267 » by **nate33** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 7:30 pm

I just don't see any overwhelming reason to select a former player as a coach. If your selection pool consists only of those few winners of the genetic lottery with the physical attributes to compete on the NBA level, you are ruling out a lot of quality candidates.

dobrojim · Post #268 » by **dobrojim** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 7:32 pm

Rules would be an interesting choice. But I'd still go with TT.

Ruland was one of my fav Bullets of alltime and one of the only
ones I ever met, him and Kevin Grevey. Ruland knows how to play.

Grevey at an O's game during the 89 Why not? season

Ruland at the Colts home opener in 83 (they played DEN and the fans
literally boo'd Elway off the field, and deservedly so).

doclinkin · Post #269 » by **doclinkin** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 10:44 pm

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:Maryland is looking good in the second half. Very stifling defensive effort.

Playing smart at both ends.

Hustle plays.

Just posted in the Terps thread they are the anti-Wizards.

Just saying...

MJG · Post #270 » by **MJG** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 9:13 pm

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/insider/ ... der-090320

While we're talking about the Wizards, my spies tell me that Ed Tapscott is unlikely to be back as head coach, and that Mavs assistant Dwane Casey is near the top of the list of likely targets.

Post #271 » by **Rafael122** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 9:24 pm

WTF. Who?

fishercob · Post #272 » by **fishercob** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 9:28 pm

FWIW, Dallas is 16th in the league in DRtg this year.

Zerocious · Post #273 » by **Zerocious** » Sun Mar 22, 2009 12:02 am

i think they should have the contestants of celebrity apprentice each coach a game, who ever has the best succes gets the job. and then in the finaly trump will fire tanksquat. my money is on tom green! rodman a close second!

lupin · Post #274 » by **lupin** » Tue Mar 24, 2009 12:23 pm

Hey, The Profit was mentioned in a DC Sports Bog posting as hanging around the arena and working out. Maybe he is the next coach in waiting?

Post #275 » by **TheSecretWeapon** » Wed Mar 25, 2009 1:42 pm

MJG wrote:http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/insider/columns/story?columnist=hollinger_john&page=PERDiemInsider-090320
While we're talking about the Wizards, my spies tell me that Ed Tapscott is unlikely to be back as head coach, and that Mavs assistant Dwane Casey is near the top of the list of likely targets.

Item of possibly mild interest -- when they were looking for a defensive coordinator, the first guy they talked with was Casey. They ended up briefly hiring Thibodeau (sp), then went with Ayers. Casey, btw was an assistant in Seattle under Nate McMillan, and exhibited some interest in advanced statistical analysis. Makes sense that he would end up in Dallas, which has an extensive statistical program.

long suffrin' boulez fan · Post #276 » by **long suffrin' boulez fan** » Wed Mar 25, 2009 3:57 pm

lupin wrote:What would Laron Profit do if he was here right now? He'd make a plan and he'd follow through. That's what Laron Profit'd do.

Laron! Shoot! Laron! Fight!

When Laron Profit was in the NCAAs shooting for the championship, he did two slamdunks and a triple pointer while wearing a blindfold.

When Laron Profit was in the Alps fighting grizzly bears, he used his magical fire-breath and saved the maidens, fair.
Laron! S-s-shoot! Laron! Live!

So what would Laron Profit'd do if he was here today? I'm sure he'd kick an arse or two. That's what Laron Profit'd do.

Laron! Shoot! Laron! Live!

When Laron Profit traveled through time to the year 3010, he fought the evil robot king and saved us all agian.

When Laron Profit built the pyramids, he beat up Kounlah Khan! Cause Laron Profit doesn't take crap from an-y-bo-dy!

[Man In Back:]
No! Laron! Those chicken wings are really spicy! Don't eat those!
[Singers:]
I've never seen a man eat so many chicken wings. I've never seen a man eat so many chicken wings. I've never seen a man eat so many chicken wings.
[man:]
AAAHHHH! I've never seen a man eat so many chicken wings! AAAHHHH! I've never seen a man EAT SO MANY CHICKEN WINGS!! AAAHHHH!! I'VE NEVER SEEN A MAN EAT SO MANY CHICKEN WINGS!!! AAAHHHH!!! I'VE NEVER SEEN A MAN EAT SO MANY CHICKEN WINGS!!!!

Laron! Shoot! Laron! Fight!

Laron Profit-o was born on the planet of Krynuk. He came to Earth to save us all from borans and unstuck. Hideedodee!

Hideeday! Laron Profit's here. So round up all your lasses and tell 'em they have no fears. Say, "Come over here my honey, and come and I'll take off my pants. and I'm gonna make dirty love to you, cause that's what Laron Profit'd do."

Causethat's what Laron Profit'd DO!

HOF post. I think this one is already being replayed on ESPN Classic.

Chocolate City Jordanaire · Post #277 » by **Chocolate City Jordanaire** » Wed Mar 25, 2009 6:50 pm

TheSecretWeapon wrote:Item of possibly mild interest -- when they were looking for a defensive coordinator, the first guy they talked with was Casey. They ended up briefly hiring Thibodeau (sp), then went with Ayers. Casey, btw was an assistant in Seattle under Nate McMillan, and exhibited some interest in advanced statistical analysis. Makes sense that he would end up in Dallas, which has an extensive statistical program.

Smart guy, Casey, but can he coach?

http://www.nba.com/coachfile/dwane_casey/index.html

Casey was named head coach of the Timberwolves on June 17, 2005. He was relieved of his coaching duties on Jan. 25, 2007 while in playoff contention with a 20-20 record. In his only stint as an NBA head coach, he earned a 43-59 record (.422).

In 2008, Casey traveled through Europe, attending Euroleague games, practices and studying various basketball concepts. Casey began his NBA coaching career as an assistant for the Sonics, where he served for 11 seasons (starting in 1994-95). He joined the Sonics for the 1994-95 season after spending five years as a head coach in Japan.

Out of high school, Casey’s decision to play at Kentucky for Coach Joe B. Hall helped the Wildcats register a 30-2 record his junior season and capture the 1978 NCAA Championship. Casey was named team captain his senior year and won UK’s all-academic award.

Bottom line: He's over 50 and hasn't won a thing at any level. I will be disappointed if Casey is the hire because I'll see it as bringing in a coach to relate to the players, instead of bringing in a coach that won't be more of the same.

I still say go with Saunders, Joerger, Blatt, Thibodeau, or Laimbeer.

fishercob · Post #278 » by **fishercob** » Wed Mar 25, 2009 7:00 pm

I dunno CCJ, I think that's sort of an unfair characterization of Casey. You're always banging the drum about how there's a wealth of NBA talent out there who would thrive if given the opportunity. Why would it be any different with coaches?

Casey's one head coaching stint was basically for a bad team. If he's a defensive guy who can indeed relate to players -- and in turn get through to them -- why would hiring him be bad?

I think a lot of us -- myself included -- have failed to consider the possibility that EG truly wanted TT to be EJ's defensive assistant, and that's it. I don't know a thing about TT other than what we all talk about. Maybe he doesn't have the personality to be a head guy. Maybe he's weak on the offensive side. We don't know.

ANd as much as I'm with you on my conceptual interest in Blatt and Jorger (along with TT), we don't know that those guys would be good fits, either. Blatt may be too entrenched in the Euro game. Jorger may be addicted to internet porn. We just don't know.

No matter how we all feel about whomever EG hires, only time will tell if it was the right move.

Chocolate City Jordanaire · Post #279 » by **Chocolate City Jordanaire** » Wed Mar 25, 2009 7:06 pm

fish, your reply was quicker than my edit--I added Flip to the top of the list, mainly because we do know he's won a lot of games in the NBA and the CBA.

I hear your on Casey and don't disagree. I could be rushing to judgement about a guy who hasn't been given a real opportunity. He coached a crap team without KG.

You're right about TT. Could have a bad head coach personality, although I wonder about how on earth he could be so very effective communicating defensive principles and how he could laud such praise from the likes a Kobe if TT wasn't adept in the people skills department.

As for Blatt, I think he'll stay in Europe.

BUT FOR JOERGER .... EVERYTHING about this kid says future star. Especially with the Grizzlies commiting to Lionel Hollins. Joerger can coach his ass off. So long as he keeps the porn addiction on the DL ...

Post #280 » by **miller31time** » Wed Mar 25, 2009 7:49 pm

I remember hearing Casey's name back when we were looking at assistant coaches. I even went to the T-Wolves Board and asked them about him. They basically said that he got a bad wrap as their coach and that he's a pretty solid NBA-level coach.

No idea if he'd fit this team as our head coach, simply because I don't know enough about him other than he's a defensive specialist. However, just from the fact he's known for coaching defense makes me think he wouldn't be the worst candidate.