lilfishi22 wrote:Almost means nothing when Vogel say an injury isn't serious....
Seeing how Hardens hamstring issues ended up causing the implosion of the Nets big 3, I'd say KD would be telling Beal to take his sweet time
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lilfishi22 wrote:Almost means nothing when Vogel say an injury isn't serious....
sashaturiaf wrote:lilfishi22 wrote:Almost means nothing when Vogel say an injury isn't serious....
Seeing how Hardens hamstring issues ended up causing the implosion of the Nets big 3, I'd say KD would be telling Beal to take his sweet time
Probably a moot point due to Beals non trade clause. That no-trade clause is a bummer but without it he's likely not a suns player right now.Revived wrote:I wonder what the Sixers offered for Beal and if Suns will regret not taking that deal.
Yeah any 'team x inquired about player x' type reporting is worthless. Like yeah GMs talk and ask about players all the time, thats like literally their job and not news.sunsbum wrote:Those headlines sounded like click bait to me.
WeekapaugGroove wrote:Probably a moot point due to Beals non trade clause. That no-trade clause is a bummer but without it he's likely not a suns player right now.Revived wrote:I wonder what the Sixers offered for Beal and if Suns will regret not taking that deal.
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lilfishi22 wrote:More than ever....we are in the championship or bust endgame
WeekapaugGroove wrote:Yeah any 'team x inquired about player x' type reporting is worthless. Like yeah GMs talk and ask about players all the time, thats like literally their job and not news.sunsbum wrote:Those headlines sounded like click bait to me.
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lilfishi22 wrote:More than ever....we are in the championship or bust endgame
lilfishi22 wrote:WeekapaugGroove wrote:Probably a moot point due to Beals non trade clause. That no-trade clause is a bummer but without it he's likely not a suns player right now.Revived wrote:I wonder what the Sixers offered for Beal and if Suns will regret not taking that deal.
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Aside from that, what do they have to offer? We're both trying to contend so what do they have that would make us better? On salary alone, you'll need you'll likely need to include someone like Harris who I have no desire for
Revived wrote:lilfishi22 wrote:WeekapaugGroove wrote:Probably a moot point due to Beals non trade clause. That no-trade clause is a bummer but without it he's likely not a suns player right now.
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Aside from that, what do they have to offer? We're both trying to contend so what do they have that would make us better? On salary alone, you'll need you'll likely need to include someone like Harris who I have no desire for
Tobias Harris overall has more value than Bradley Beal right now though.
Beal has the worst contract in the NBA at the moment.
lilfishi22 wrote:More than ever....we are in the championship or bust endgame
Id also argue it's simply not true. There are several players making $15m+ who are unplayable and out of rotations. Those are the truly bad contacts. Guys who can actually play but are overpaid are definitely ahead of them in the bad contact deal.lilfishi22 wrote:Revived wrote:lilfishi22 wrote:Aside from that, what do they have to offer? We're both trying to contend so what do they have that would make us better? On salary alone, you'll need you'll likely need to include someone like Harris who I have no desire for
Tobias Harris overall has more value than Bradley Beal right now though.
Beal has the worst contract in the NBA at the moment.
We trying to win the best value team title ?
WeekapaugGroove wrote:Id also argue it's simply not true. There are several players making $15m+ who are unplayable and out of rotations. Those are the truly bad contacts. Guys who can actually play but are overpaid are definitely ahead of them in the bad contact deal.lilfishi22 wrote:Revived wrote:Tobias Harris overall has more value than Bradley Beal right now though.
Beal has the worst contract in the NBA at the moment.
We trying to win the best value team title ?
Hell Poole who was another option and is a way way worse contact. He's been dismal with Washington.
Id rather have Beals contact than Aytons.
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lilfishi22 wrote:More than ever....we are in the championship or bust endgame
Bradley Beal has had procedure done on broken nose, sources inform @azcentral.
As for the left hamstring, sources inform @azcentral Bradley Beal is on track to return Thursday at Dallas barring any setbacks.
sashaturiaf wrote:I don't get the hate for Beals contract. You can criticise his availability for the past few seasons but as a player he was a legitimate all-NBA level player and elite at what he does (score). When you're that level of player how much can you even be overpaid?
Reminds me of when Gobert was the flavor of the month in terms of being called overpaid and NBA groupthink went along with it.
Stix wrote:sashaturiaf wrote:I don't get the hate for Beals contract. You can criticise his availability for the past few seasons but as a player he was a legitimate all-NBA level player and elite at what he does (score). When you're that level of player how much can you even be overpaid?
Reminds me of when Gobert was the flavor of the month in terms of being called overpaid and NBA groupthink went along with it.
You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. Also the same for games played. He's worthless if he is always wearing street clothes. His bad 3pt shooting in games outside of the Lakers/Washington is embarrassing. I don't know the exact stat off the top of my head but its somewhere around 20%.
He is the 6th highest player in the NBA, only Curry/Durant/Joker/LBJ/Embiid make more. All the names mentioned are legit MVP candidates. Can we say the same for Beal? He's also missed more games this year than the guy we traded for him (CP3) who is 39 years old in an expiring contract. I would argue that Beal is not even in the top 25 of NBA players. Definitely does not justify his contract. He was on a bad team for a decade, never got them anywhere in the playoffs when they did make it.
Please bro, look into your facts before you start being a Beal stan. That is currently the worst contract in the NBA. On top of that, you need to get his say-so if you even want to think about trading him. Ridiculous.
Injury concerns will always be there but from a skill perspective I don't think Beal will be much different at 32 years old than he is now at 30.Frank Lee wrote:Beal now is good… but Beal 2 yrs from now ? Phew…
But Beal now is good. Hard to see a better return for a washed grandPaul. Actually pretty lucky to get Beal. Moving on from CP was mandatory. Them taking TheSham was a bonus.
Don’t see why there’s gruff about it, other than his durability. We’ll deal with the salary **** when we need to. Just going to have to be creative, and it’s looking like a good bit of that was injected into the FO
sashaturiaf wrote:Stix wrote:sashaturiaf wrote:I don't get the hate for Beals contract. You can criticise his availability for the past few seasons but as a player he was a legitimate all-NBA level player and elite at what he does (score). When you're that level of player how much can you even be overpaid?
Reminds me of when Gobert was the flavor of the month in terms of being called overpaid and NBA groupthink went along with it.
You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. Also the same for games played. He's worthless if he is always wearing street clothes. His bad 3pt shooting in games outside of the Lakers/Washington is embarrassing. I don't know the exact stat off the top of my head but its somewhere around 20%.
He is the 6th highest player in the NBA, only Curry/Durant/Joker/LBJ/Embiid make more. All the names mentioned are legit MVP candidates. Can we say the same for Beal? He's also missed more games this year than the guy we traded for him (CP3) who is 39 years old in an expiring contract. I would argue that Beal is not even in the top 25 of NBA players. Definitely does not justify his contract. He was on a bad team for a decade, never got them anywhere in the playoffs when they did make it.
Please bro, look into your facts before you start being a Beal stan. That is currently the worst contract in the NBA. On top of that, you need to get his say-so if you even want to think about trading him. Ridiculous.
Cut your schtick, I'm no Beal Stan but when the price was CP3 and seconds you do that every single time. You can argue his fit on this team, but Beal is a legit elite scorer in his prime, arguably as good as Booker if he has the green light.
CP3 was expiring and we were capped out anyway with no way of replacing his salary via free agency if he did expire. So what would you rather, giving Beals money to Jordan Poole or a 40yo CP3?