Bradley Beal thread

enigmatics · Post #241 » by **enigmatics** » Fri Feb 23, 2024 9:05 pm

Bogyo wrote:
Stix wrote:Missing 2 more games. Thought he was "close".

Mate, I really have no horse in this race (other than wanting the Suns to win), but you are just being a c*nt. stf up

I concur - he is.

Stix · Post #242 » by **Stix** » Sat Feb 24, 2024 5:47 am

Loved his contributions from the bench tonight. His facial reactions when the refs screwed us were phenomenal.

... and he looked sharp in his new street clothes.

sunsbum · Post #243 » by **sunsbum** » Sat Feb 24, 2024 10:47 am

First person I’ve ever put on ignore from this board. Now back to sniffing my game used Beal spandex if you’ll excuse me.

Bogyo · Post #244 » by **Bogyo** » Sat Feb 24, 2024 12:31 pm

sunsbum wrote:First person I’ve ever put on ignore from this board. Now back to sniffing my game used Beal spandex if you’ll excuse me.

Same. He is just a boring c*nt to be honest, so why bother if he is not even entertaining... At least the clowns in the Ayton camp gave up by now - I guess we have hope

Stix · Post #245 » by **Stix** » Sat Feb 24, 2024 4:00 pm

As a Suns fan, how can you not be infuriated by this?

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Hammy seems to fine to me...

Spoiler:

sunsbg · Post #246 » by **sunsbg** » Sat Feb 24, 2024 4:18 pm

BBB netted $85K for each point he scored this season is what I read on another Suns board. Nice job. I'd dance too.

Post #247 » by **bwgood77** » Sat Feb 24, 2024 10:11 pm

Bogyo wrote:
Stix wrote:Missing 2 more games. Thought he was "close".

Mate, I really have no horse in this race (other than wanting the Suns to win), but you are just being a c*nt. stf up

It is getting very old, and while I know it is frustrating for everyone, especially due to all the reports for trolling, please try not to use personal attacks, especially with that kind of language as it is against the rules, even though I agree with the gist as I know many others due as well.

But Stix, while it's ok to state your opinion, the is so repetitive and often, it's not making any meaningful discussion and at this point, it's basic trolling, so I hope you can move on and try and provide more meaningful contribution to threads. I know you've been a long time member and I don't remember you ever posting like this before.

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Stix · Post #248 » by **Stix** » Sun Feb 25, 2024 1:59 am

While I can agree that some of my tone and posts have been a bit trollish. That is not always the case, and I do give meaningful input at times. This guy is just so easy to make fun of. Sorry. Also just trying to bring some humor to the situation because the team kinda sucks right now without him. I won't post anymore, sorry to the (enter your imaginative adjective here) people who can't take a few jokes. Peace.

sunsbg · Post #249 » by **sunsbg** » Sun Feb 25, 2024 7:08 am

Apparently he worsened the hammy while dancing on the bench. Status from questionable to doubtful to out for the Lakers game. I don't know how anybody would not be frustrated with his injuries at this point. The fears about dragging this team down with his injuries and anchor contract have materialized pretty fast. No wonder Wizards fans on GB are really happy about getting rid of him.

Fifii · Post #250 » by **Fifii** » Sun Feb 25, 2024 7:12 am

Sti x I understand your jokes about Beal and I don’t really understand people who blame you about trolling. Sometime your jokes about Beal make me laugh so I’m with you.

Beal has 46 M in salary and more unplayed than played so he is the huge problem. He is 6th in players salary so this is a joke.

We have 193 M in team pay roll and if Beal will be not available in PO and we got 1rd exit that would be embarrassing

Calvin Klein · Post #251 » by **Calvin Klein** » Sun Feb 25, 2024 12:22 pm

Frustration should be directed at the people responsible for acquiring him. He is what he is and everybody knew about his injury situation and contract.

SunsRback4Good · Post #252 » by **SunsRback4Good** » Sun Feb 25, 2024 12:35 pm

Diehard Bradley Beal fan checking in

Post #253 » by **bwgood77** » Sun Feb 25, 2024 10:28 pm

Fifii wrote:Sti x I understand your jokes about Beal and I don’t really understand people who blame you about trolling. Sometime your jokes about Beal make me laugh so I’m with you.

Beal has 46 M in salary and more unplayed than played so he is the huge problem. He is 6th in players salary so this is a joke.

We have 193 M in team pay roll and if Beal will be not available in PO and we got 1rd exit that would be embarrassing

The problem is we had no options. Had we kept Paul and Shamet I think that is a worse situation, and it's not like Paul is healthy this season and is basically done anyway. He's missed 23 games and Shamet 16. We could have maybe had Jordan Poole but we'd be worse when he plays because he takes 16 shots a game and has under a 51% TS%, and shoots 30% from 3 with no defense.

Someone like Ben Simmons may have been a possibility, and would have been a better fit but he's missed 42 games and I'm sure would frustrate people more...and can't shoot.

garrick · Post #254 » by **garrick** » Mon Feb 26, 2024 6:20 am

bwgood77 wrote:
Fifii wrote:Sti x I understand your jokes about Beal and I don’t really understand people who blame you about trolling. Sometime your jokes about Beal make me laugh so I’m with you.

Beal has 46 M in salary and more unplayed than played so he is the huge problem. He is 6th in players salary so this is a joke.

We have 193 M in team pay roll and if Beal will be not available in PO and we got 1rd exit that would be embarrassing

The problem is we had no options. Had we kept Paul and Shamet I think that is a worse situation, and it's not like Paul is healthy this season and is basically done anyway. He's missed 23 games and Shamet 16. We could have maybe had Jordan Poole but we'd be worse when he plays because he takes 16 shots a game and has under a 51% TS%, and shoots 30% from 3 with no defense.

Someone like Ben Simmons may have been a possibility, and would have been a better fit but he's missed 42 games and I'm sure would frustrate people more...and can't shoot.

My issue is with the last two years of his contract where he will be making 53 and 57 mil per year which is a massive hit on our salary cap and if he's going to be injury riddled that would just be terrible value.

On the last year of his contract as an expiring it would be tough to deal him on a 57 mil contract and he has the no trade clause as well making it even harder to potentially ship him out. The only out I can see is the stretch and waive provision if Beal is just an absolute shell of his former self.

Bogyo · Post #255 » by **Bogyo** » Mon Feb 26, 2024 6:22 am

bwgood77 wrote:
Fifii wrote:Sti x I understand your jokes about Beal and I don’t really understand people who blame you about trolling. Sometime your jokes about Beal make me laugh so I’m with you.

Beal has 46 M in salary and more unplayed than played so he is the huge problem. He is 6th in players salary so this is a joke.

We have 193 M in team pay roll and if Beal will be not available in PO and we got 1rd exit that would be embarrassing

The problem is we had no options. Had we kept Paul and Shamet I think that is a worse situation, and it's not like Paul is healthy this season and is basically done anyway. He's missed 23 games and Shamet 16. We could have maybe had Jordan Poole but we'd be worse when he plays because he takes 16 shots a game and has under a 51% TS%, and shoots 30% from 3 with no defense.

Someone like Ben Simmons may have been a possibility, and would have been a better fit but he's missed 42 games and I'm sure would frustrate people more...and can't shoot.

Kudos to you BW, and your patience. It's like trying to teach brain dead chickens the alphabet, and you are still out there doing gods work for the millionth time.

sunsbg · Post #256 » by **sunsbg** » Mon Feb 26, 2024 6:58 am

It was a good trade in theory and still frustrating Suns replaced a 38yo player with a 30yo player on a huge contract with the later as injury prone as the former if not even more. Both can be true. Beal has now two injuries after almost no contact and he couldn't even start the season for 20 games. Based on his injury history believing he'll be healthy during gruelling four playoff series is like kids believing in Santa Clause.

Fifii · Post #257 » by **Fifii** » Mon Feb 26, 2024 7:56 am

Maybe we should trade package of rolls instead Beal ?

Post #258 » by **bwgood77** » Mon Feb 26, 2024 8:49 am

garrick wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
Fifii wrote:Sti x I understand your jokes about Beal and I don’t really understand people who blame you about trolling. Sometime your jokes about Beal make me laugh so I’m with you.

Beal has 46 M in salary and more unplayed than played so he is the huge problem. He is 6th in players salary so this is a joke.

We have 193 M in team pay roll and if Beal will be not available in PO and we got 1rd exit that would be embarrassing

The problem is we had no options. Had we kept Paul and Shamet I think that is a worse situation, and it's not like Paul is healthy this season and is basically done anyway. He's missed 23 games and Shamet 16. We could have maybe had Jordan Poole but we'd be worse when he plays because he takes 16 shots a game and has under a 51% TS%, and shoots 30% from 3 with no defense.

Someone like Ben Simmons may have been a possibility, and would have been a better fit but he's missed 42 games and I'm sure would frustrate people more...and can't shoot.

My issue is with the last two years of his contract where he will be making 53 and 57 mil per year which is a massive hit on our salary cap and if he's going to be injury riddled that would just be terrible value.

On the last year of his contract as an expiring it would be tough to deal him on a 57 mil contract and he has the no trade clause as well making it even harder to potentially ship him out. The only out I can see is the stretch and waive provision if Beal is just an absolute shell of his former self.

Of course. No one likes that. But they were going all in to win now in the next couple of years.

The 25-26 year is not a big deal because even without him, with Book and KD also making $53 million, we would likely be near or over the cap if we retain the salary slots for guys like Nurkic and Allen. We will also need to retain the Little contract space to have options, whether it be trade or re-sign.

But, the final Beal year where he makes $57 million on a player option will be tough, but KD will have expired. If we re-up KD with an extension early, it won't much matter anyway, but if we were to move on from KD, it would be nice to have the option of moving on from Beal as well. But, it will be an expiring deal, and perhaps there is a chance if he is playing well, that we could get him to decline the player option and give him a smaller multi year contract. That is probably doubtful though.

I would not stretch that big of a contract though. That's a $19 million hit for 3 years. Just get it done with.

But Ish and crew made their bed so they have to lie in it, good or bad.

Post #259 » by **lilfishi22** » Mon Feb 26, 2024 10:34 am

garrick wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
Fifii wrote:Sti x I understand your jokes about Beal and I don’t really understand people who blame you about trolling. Sometime your jokes about Beal make me laugh so I’m with you.

Beal has 46 M in salary and more unplayed than played so he is the huge problem. He is 6th in players salary so this is a joke.

We have 193 M in team pay roll and if Beal will be not available in PO and we got 1rd exit that would be embarrassing

The problem is we had no options. Had we kept Paul and Shamet I think that is a worse situation, and it's not like Paul is healthy this season and is basically done anyway. He's missed 23 games and Shamet 16. We could have maybe had Jordan Poole but we'd be worse when he plays because he takes 16 shots a game and has under a 51% TS%, and shoots 30% from 3 with no defense.

Someone like Ben Simmons may have been a possibility, and would have been a better fit but he's missed 42 games and I'm sure would frustrate people more...and can't shoot.

My issue is with the last two years of his contract where he will be making 53 and 57 mil per year which is a massive hit on our salary cap and if he's going to be injury riddled that would just be terrible value.

On the last year of his contract as an expiring it would be tough to deal him on a 57 mil contract and he has the no trade clause as well making it even harder to potentially ship him out. The only out I can see is the stretch and waive provision if Beal is just an absolute shell of his former self.

We're not even in the conversation if we didn't make the trade imo

When you're all in, you're bound to have at least one bad deal. Look at Clippers for example, PG is up for a new deal (which I think he'll get), I'd imagine they'd want to extend Harden to at least a 2yr deal, Kawhi got his extension and even though he's been unusually healthy this year, who knows what his health looks like as he heads into his mid-30's. At least one of them will turn into a bad deal. After the Cavs won in 2016, they max extended Love then Lebron and their title hopes went away a season after. Even without a NTC, Love's tenure with the Cavs didn't end until he was waived like a year ago. It's pretty rare at the end of a contending window that there are no residual bad contracts left on the books.

We knew what we were getting into and accepted the risks of going all in. If Beal isn't effective next season, the season after or the season after that, then we'll cross that bridge if we get there. For now, we're focused on this season.

Saberestar · Post #260 » by **Saberestar** » Fri Mar 8, 2024 4:24 pm

Bradley Beal has 62 drives in his last 3 games.

For context - the 20.7 drives per game avg would place Beal only 2nd to SGA (24.0) in the NBA if it were over the whole season.

A welcome addition to this PHX team & one they can exploit further off pet plays & isolation.

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