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Post#21 » by BigSlam » Tue Jun 10, 2008 8:02 pm

Mayo or Beasley would be great picks for the Heat.

Rose would not be IMO.
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Post#22 » by Walt Cronkite » Tue Jun 10, 2008 8:07 pm

I agree. If Brewer pans out how they'd like, he probably makes Crash redundant.

I know Minnesota would like Okafor to pair with Jefferson, but we couldn't trade him until after the draft. On our end, trading away Emeka in order to get Beasley fills our need for post scoring, but then we have to find an elite post defensive big. I don't think they'd covet Richardson since they're in a youth movement, so pretty much the only player that would be worth moving is Wallace. The part I didn't mention was that since Minnesota is over the cap, salaries would have to match so we'd be taking someone like Fatoine off of their hands in the exchange...
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Post#23 » by doc.end » Tue Jun 10, 2008 8:14 pm

IF we lose Okafor somehow i think Nazr is a solid starter. Don't forget he already played under Larry.
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Post#24 » by waverider » Wed Jun 11, 2008 1:34 am

POR fan here, we've dscussed this in the past. But I would think Pritchard would be willing to trade the #13, Fyre or Jack, and perhaps a 2nd rdr for the 9 and filler.
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Post#25 » by spectre_ » Wed Jun 11, 2008 2:17 am

waverider wrote:POR fan here, we've dscussed this in the past. But I would think Pritchard would be willing to trade the #13, Fyre or Jack, and perhaps a 2nd rdr for the 9 and filler.


And I still think that's a deal we should strongly consider. It gives us good depth at the positions we need it most. In the original I think it was Frye/Jack/13th for 9th/Ammo. If the filler is Harrington I'd settle for just Frye, but if it's Ammo I'd want 'em both.
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Post#26 » by waverider » Wed Jun 11, 2008 12:42 pm

spectre_ wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



And I still think that's a deal we should strongly consider. It gives us good depth at the positions we need it most. In the original I think it was Frye/Jack/13th for 9th/Ammo. If the filler is Harrington I'd settle for just Frye, but if it's Ammo I'd want 'em both.


Understood about Jack and Ammo, I think the basis for a fair trade is there, I'm not sure the Blazers would want Ammo.
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Post#27 » by doc.end » Wed Jun 11, 2008 1:12 pm

It is definitenaly a fair offer, It depends on who we are really eyeing in this draft. Maybe we could even continue with another trade - trading our 2 second rounds (one from this trade) to get late first round to get a specific player (draft day trade).
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Post#28 » by fatlever » Wed Jun 11, 2008 3:55 pm

perfect storm

we trade 9 and harrington for 13 and frye, then either westbrook or dj falls to 13.... although the blazer fans seem to think westbrook is their man... stranger things have happened. we get a player at 13 that we might have taken at 9 and we pick up frye in the process.
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Post#29 » by Walt Cronkite » Wed Jun 11, 2008 4:07 pm

I think there's no way DJ/Westbrook is there at 13, this is precisely why Portland wants to trade. Since that's the case I think I'd prefer Jack or Blake over Frye and then at 13 we take Speights, Arthur or Alexander
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Post#30 » by waverider » Wed Jun 11, 2008 4:10 pm

Walt Cronkite wrote:I think there's no way DJ/Westbrook is there at 13, this is precisely why Portland wants to trade. Since that's the case I think I'd prefer Jack or Blake over Frye and then at 13 we take Speights, Arthur or Alexander


Either one I think would work fine with POR, you can jack or Frye with the #13.
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Post#31 » by Walt Cronkite » Wed Jun 11, 2008 4:11 pm

I think I like Frye more, is the problem. :)
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Post#32 » by fatlever » Wed Jun 11, 2008 4:16 pm

and i certainly like westbrook or dj more than jack... hence it being the "perfect storm"... being highly unlikely and all.

i'm not sure i'd do the deal for jack and 13
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Post#33 » by Walt Cronkite » Wed Jun 11, 2008 4:20 pm

I know what you mean. Just pointing out that it's super unlikely that the Kings and Pacers pass on a pg so we have to be prepared for signing a backup pg in free agency and just taking bpa at 13.
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Post#34 » by fatlever » Wed Jun 11, 2008 4:35 pm

yeah............. i know :(
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Post#35 » by BigSlam » Wed Jun 11, 2008 6:10 pm

fatlever wrote:and i certainly like westbrook or dj more than jack... hence it being the "perfect storm"... being highly unlikely and all.

i'm not sure i'd do the deal for jack and 13


Wouldn't Jack address our back up PG problem though? Then at #13 we take the best PF on the board?
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Post#36 » by doc.end » Wed Jun 11, 2008 6:14 pm

Walt Cronkite wrote:I think there's no way DJ/Westbrook is there at 13, this is precisely why Portland wants to trade. Since that's the case I think I'd prefer Jack or Blake over Frye and then at 13 we take Speights, Arthur or Alexander
I would pick Ibaka over these guys. Except Alexander who is a SF, a position which we don't really need.

Ibaka is not porbably ready to enter the league so we can let him play another year in Europe, if we need to safe a roster spot and let larry to find out what our currentp layers actually re (especially our underweight ig men projects).
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Post#37 » by fatlever » Wed Jun 11, 2008 8:54 pm

BigSlam wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Wouldn't Jack address our back up PG problem though? Then at #13 we take the best PF on the board?


sure he would... but frye and westbrook/dj beats the hell out of jack and jordan/speights/arthur, imo.

we need a starting pf now and frye would give us that. anyone we draft at pf will not be a starter next season. at pg, we can afford to have a rookie back up since we have felton. so, despite talent, frye and a rookie pg is a better fit for the team in the short term as well.

so if the deal isnt frye then id rather just stay at 9 and draft westbrook or dj and then address the pf via FA or another trade.
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Post#38 » by _tijo_ » Tue Jun 17, 2008 3:34 pm

The issue is that in Jack we would get out backup pg, whereas with Frye we would get our starting pf. I would not mind if we got Frye with the 13 (BPA, say Jordan) and then go with a second round pg for a backup, like George Hill. We then have flexibility with Frye and Jordan guarding the athletic big, and Okafor and Nazr guarding the post big.
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Post#39 » by Chained To The Ball » Wed Jun 18, 2008 12:13 pm

As an outsider, it would seem to me with EM50 and May being somewhat unstable, EM50 does not seem to be showing much more up - side ... maybe, low post D; and May not being the picture of health. Love seems to be the logical pick to me.

I hope you take this with the respect I mean it in, not trolling .... just saying/ asking.

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